We need to allow no acceptance of officers of the law “making mistakes;” the repercussions are too high. Innocent people end up dead or injured physically and emotionally. We allow police to walk around with killing machines on their hips. They are allowed to arrest anyone they don’t like, abuse them and then charge them with resisting arrest.
Would we allow a few airline pilots to get drunk and fly a plane and then say: Oh well, they’re always a few bad apples? Would we allow surgeons to make mistakes that kill the patient and again say: well, there’s going to be some bad ones? No we don’t allow this because these professionals carry people’s lives in their hands. Well, we are giving police the power to hold people’s lives in their hands also. There needs to be Zero Tolerance for police making mistakes.
Unfortunately, most police officers have the mindset that they can do whatever they want because they have all the power and citizens have none. Everyday we see examples of police abusing innocent people and all too often killing them. How is it that they get away with this? Police will admit that they need to police their own, but they don’t. They laugh about the cop with the bad attitude and chalk it up to, well that’s how we operate.
If the public is going to respect police, then they have to be exemplars of proper behavior and understand that they can’t abuse the extreme power to be judge, jury, and chief executioner.

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JBo
JBo

I've never met anyone who hasn't made a mistake...I must not live on your side of town.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

But when police make mistakes, PEOPLE DIE!

hJR
hJR

I appreciate your sentiments: mistakes are to be avoided at all cost. However, your example all have one thing in common. The professionals are not going to be killed, instantly, if they mis-judge the intentions of the other party. How many surgeons would come to work if they new that SOME percentage of their patients came in wearing suicide vests - and they hated needles! Police are in THE MOST DANGEROUS JOB in the country and we, the people, need to understand: do what they say, now! That's all. If there is a problem you can work it out later, with the judge. We hired them to keep order -- let them do their job.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

But why do they have all the power to hurt people when many of these police are no better than thugs themselves. If only the police monitored their own and got rid of ALL the bad apples.

Cop2331
Cop2331

Drs have plenty of power to hurt/harm people. Thank you so much for referring to me as a thug. We do have monitoring. Its called internally affairs.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

From where I sit, your Internal Affairs does nothing. You guys literallt get away with murder, much less the physical and emotional trauma of citizens.

ProGODProUSA
ProGODProUSA

Let's see, people in the medical profession - from pharmacist to surgeon, people in the food industry - from farmer to fast food handlers, anyone in transportation - from regular drivers to train engineers and pilots - and I'll include impaired drivers here, all make mistakes where people die.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Dear Mr Cop2331, Why dont you ask yourself why a middle -class law-abiding White senior citizen woman would mistrust and dislike police so much. You're not just making enemies of minorities, you;re making enemies of the "good people" also. Think at that.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

That's one hell of an excuse- "Other people make mistakes too." But not as often. And society doesn't arm them with killing machines on their hip. The purpose of trucks is not to kill. I can't imagine how often farmers kill people, but definitely not on purpose. That wouldn't look too good for their bottom line. You're really going to have to come up with a better excuse.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I find it interesting that you call yourself ProGODProUSA. I assume that's so you represent yourself as the perfect Christian and patriot. How wonderful for you. Aren't you just the Saint? I'm sure you never do anything wrong.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Well, wee

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Well, well, doesn't that just make you beyond reproach? What does being a Christian have to do with police brutality?

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I just wonder - Why does anyone defend police brutality?

ProGODProUSA
ProGODProUSA

There are quite a few of us here who are Christians and support the police. There is a big difference between brutality and necessary force. I'm sorry for you that you get your news from the mainstream media. I'll be praying for you.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Please don't pray for me. If you were truly a Christian, you'd be for justice. What does "necessary force" mean to you. Who gets to determine necessary force? Is it throwing a person whom you don't like on the ground, breaking their bones, etc. Because that's how it looks to me - a middle class, law-abiding White elderly woman.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I'm sure you're looking for a reason to hate me. I'll give you one - I'm Jewish.

ProGODProUSA
ProGODProUSA

Okay ... Why should I hate you - because you're a Jew? Do you sit around waiting to find offense? I'm sorry for you - such a bitter way to live.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I just don't approve or accept police brutality. You still haven't explained how your being a Christian has anything to do with police brutality. Are you a cop or an ex-cop? Why are you defending brutality? That doesn't sound very Christian to me. Did Jesus preach that?

ProGODProUSA
ProGODProUSA

I do not defend brutality - only evil people are brutal - like the Nazis were. If we had not used "necessary force", then we'd all be under Germany's thumb. You have made up your mind and will not listen to reason, so I will end this conversation here.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Why are you equating fighting WWII with the "necessary force" of policing citizens on America's streets? I'll stop now. You're just too simple-minded to try and have an intelligent conversation with.

CraigTee-RetiredSD
CraigTee-RetiredSD

"We need to allow no acceptance of officers of the law “making mistakes;” the repercussions are too high.
Then, Senior Citizen, you better find several thousand Jesus Christs to act as cops because, to my understanding, He's the only man who was perfect.
All other humans WILL make mistakes. Either get a a bunch or Jesus's, don't have cops, or live with the fact that cops are human. Your choice.

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

"I just don't approve or accept police brutality." Ma'am, here is the interesting thing: neither do the majority of us, all of us evil souls that will answer your call for help without question. You are new here and you obviously have your beliefs, which, unfortunately for you are not based on reality. You clearly don't understand the Law, you have no grasp of criminal behavior and certainly have no idea about what law enforcement entails. My guess is that you are newly minted SJW from the 'burbs who is jumping on the bandwagon. I'm also guessing that your only interaction with Police, if you have had any at all, was at a local protest march where you joined in with no real idea what was being protested. Maybe you thought that it was your "right" to block a street and you got taught otherwise? Instead of continuing to look like a whiny, sniveling air-head, how about learning the difference between your "brutality" and the legal use of force by a LEO?

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

@JBo you are correct. The flip side of it is sort of entertaining to see how absolutely clueless people can be. Be safe.

JBo
JBo

Folks, there's no upside to arguing with a troll whose whole life revolves around hatred and ignorance.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

That view is a total cop-out . I don't expect human beings to not make mistakes, but the Blues make way too many mistakes and the affects of their "mistakes" are deadly. BUT the real problem is that cops don't think these are mistakes. They commit murder and brutality and you guys just laugh about it and defend them. And then they get off scott free. So don't talk about the human frailty of everyone making mistakes. Cops don't even try to behave themselves.

JBo
JBo

I deleted my post before you commented on it and rewrote it...take care out there!

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I may have hate towards cops, But Ignorance - I think not!

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

"Be safe" - How about caring about citizens being safe? You guys only care about yourselves.

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

Sam 1, 10-8

JBo
JBo

SeniorCitizen...life is too short to spend any part of it hating and I feel sorry that you are in that position. I wish you the best in what life has to offer, but I won't continue a dialog with anyone so bitter. No upside for either of us.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

First of all, I have never blocked a street illegally or refused to move. Yes, I have been to many Protest Marches over the years, beginning with Anti Vietnam War. I experienced some lovely cops back then too. But you are being extremely ignorant when you suggest that I didn't know what I was protesting for. Believe me, I knew then and I know now exactly what I am protesting about. That sounds like Rush Talk. The only thing you Nuts can think of is to say that we don't know what we're protesting for. It's the only excuse you can come up with for the Millions protesting tRump. But I have interacted with cops at other times, like when my seriously mentally ill teenage daughter ran away. She was completely harmless, but they treated her like a criminal in FRONT OF ME. Then when she ran out of our car in a city, we waited for 2HOURS in the Hartford, CT Police Dept for help in finding her. They just ignored us while we sat there waiting for help from them They did not help one tiny bit. I could go with examples, but I won't right now. So you see, us SWJs (I don't even know what that is) from the Burbs can really dislike you too. Why don't you explain what "legal use of force" on an innocent citizen is? Or are all citizens criminals to you guys?

SueCoop
SueCoop

So now we see from where the hatred for our officers come. Thank to all of the officers out there who do their jobs despite the hatred and assassinations. Just like in Dallas, you guys run to protect.... even those who protest against you and hate you. There are no words in the English language to express my appreciation for you!

cherry55
cherry55

From one senior citizen to another. Your arm chair quarterbacking is tainted by the hate and anger you harbor. Protest you heart out. I hope you find peace of heart and shed that hate before you pass. PS, cops deserve to go home to their families as well. And, for the record, Police officers RARELY respond quickly for run away calls. If they did, they wouldn't have time to respond to the rampant rapes, assaults, robberies, etc. etc etc. you know, the violent crimes.

LoggedOff
LoggedOff

SeniorCitizen....Based on your comments, it sounds like you have had a lifetime of bitterness that you have dealt with, which is incredibly sad and I feel sorry for you. I'm not going to waste time reiterating what others have already said, but you really need to get perspective on what you are talking about. You seem to forget that there are 2 sides to every story and understand that the first story heard is rarely the accurate one, no matter who says it or how many "witnesses" there are. Before you continue arguing about things you don't understand, I highly suggest you contact your local law enforcement and ask them if they offer a ride along program. If they do, please take advantage of it. Knock the chip off your shoulder and go into it with a truly open and inquisitive attitude. I think if you really want to understand and discover the truth behind those badges, that you continue to demonize, your tune will change.

Heezels
Heezels

This comment is nonsense. You couldn’t get rid of all the bad apples if you tried harder than they do now. You’re operating off the assumption that police who break the law, aren’t punished. That’s wrong, many are. You’re also assuming that police are always making mistakes. They aren’t. In fact the ratio of mistakes made by law enforcement are at extreme lows.

You’re thinking about this issue like a child.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I doubt very much my opinion would change just by riding along. I see and read too much to change my opinion. Any you all may be interested to know that many years ago, my husband actually trained the local police in self defense techniques. He befriended a few of them and we even socialized with a few. Yet I still maintain that there's enough arrogant, entitled-acting cops to give them all a very bad name. My premise remains that there's no room for mistakes when you carry a killing machine on your hip and are given the power to arrest and manhandle anyone just because you don't like the look on their face. There's too many cops out there taking advantage of their power and that causes even me (older, White, middle-class, retired teacher, volunteer, active in my religious institution) to carry tremendous anger towards police. You guys have to understand that it's not only "thugs" who have anger.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

The cops who abused my mentally daughter (who had made a suicide threat) in front of me were in a suburban neighborhood and they had very little violent crime to deal with. They just found her in her car, dragged her out and threw her on the ground. No reason for that kind of police brutality; she was completely harmless.

Recon485
Recon485

eyeroll

CanadianBlue
CanadianBlue

Senior Citizen have you had children or grandchildren who have been through the criminal justice system many times. Each time saying "I didn't do anything" and you believed them?

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

A big, NO, to your question. Absolutely and positively, no. My children have had zero involvement with the criminal justice system and I have no grandchildren or nieces or nephews, etc. There's just too many cops out there taking advantage of their power and that causes even me (older, White, middle-class, retired teacher, volunteer, active in my religious institution) to carry tremendous anger towards police. You guys have to understand that it's not just "thugs" who have anger.

BullDaddy
BullDaddy

@seniorcitizen...You were a teacher??? I suppose that the axiom of those who can't do teach is factually correct. I can only shudder at how much of your twisted, hateful and bile spewing dogma you forcefed impressionable minds over the decades that you sat on your sanctimonious posterior and judged those who provide you the safety in which to do so. You pigeonhole ALL police officers based on your narrow minded, bigoted and uninformed hatred of LEO's. Do you only come on these sites to troll? I would recommend to you that you do a drop of research. There is no such thing as "arresting anyone they please because they don't like their face". My God. Are you so ignorant that you are incapable of recognizing your own arrogance? The very characteristic for which you throw a blanket accusal at an entire profession? Get over yourself grandma. In short, from a twenty year Law Enforcement veteran to an uninformed, spiteful hag, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND LEARN BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

LetGodSortItOut
LetGodSortItOut

Cops need to do NOTHING at work. Study. Read poetry. Write haiku. Bird watch. Leaf peep. Whatever. But do NOT be proactive! Look.at these ass hats like SENIOR CITIZEN ! They will destroy you if you offend anyone. Or god forbid you dont walk on water.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

You are showing your total ignorance. First of all, any public school would fire a teacher who spewed "twisted, hateful and bile spewing dogma". For your information, I taught in Elementary school, where politics never comes up. I taught both Special Education and English as a Second Language to young children and the closest I ever came to talking about police was reading those cute little books about different kinds of jobs, which always included a few pages about police officers and firefighters. You're the one who is carrying hate and bigotry. I can just imagine what kind of student YOU were. You were probably the difficult, disrespectful kid who never wanted to do any work. I've seen plenty of your kind in my years. That's why you resent teachers; they tried to make you work and you didn't want to. You went into police work because it doesn't require an intellect, but does require a bully with an arrogant attitude. You loved the idea of hiding behind the "power of the badge" so you could bully people. If you read my original statement, it says that Police need to get rid of the bad apples because they are infecting the whole profession. By protecting the bad ones (and you are probably one of them, based on your attacks to me), police are allowing the infection to grow. This creates a terrible attitude among the law-abiding public, not just the thugs.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

I don't think you have to worry about this "ass hat" destroying you. I have NO power, unlike you who has all the power to hurt and abuse me. And really, couldn't you come up with something a little more grown-up sounding than "ass hat." No, we don't expect you to "walk on water", but how about just not killing and maiming people? By defending bad behavior among police, you are continuing the abuse of power that has been going on way too long. The difference now is that we have video cameras on our phones and your actions are being recorded, unlike in the past where you guys got away with murder, literally.

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

Dear RunCop, Do you really think that spewing vile insults to a little old lady is earning you any points? It only reinforces my idea that all you Blues are just "thugs with guns." It may get you a few chuckles among your other Blue Thugs, but again, that just reinforces my point! And yes, I am very scared of you all. You carry around a murder weapon and you get to use it whenever you want. We see this happening everyday.

257mom
257mom

Since the little old lady card was played, I am offering my comment as another little old lady, albeit with a much different view than Senior City. Your disdain and hatred for law enforcement is palpable. Are there a few that should never had a badge and misused authority? Yes, but a very small few. Just like a few teachers who misuse their authority and have sex with their student, there are always a few that do bad things but they do not represent the vast majority. As a mom of a murdered officer, I would like to point out that incidents where police are shot by criminals are never accidents or mistakes, they are always intentional. If you are that scared of every police officer, please call your closest and dearest thug to protect you when you are robbed, raped, burglarized or someone is attempting to take your life. Let's see how that would work out for you.