VIDEO: Baltimore PD Oversight Chair Refuses To Comply 60+ Times On Traffic Stop

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The chair of a police oversight panel refused to comply with an officer's requests and tried to get arrested on video.

Baltimore, MD – The chair of the civilian group tasked with oversight of the Baltimore Police Department was recorded on video refusing to obey officers' commands during a traffic stop.

Bodycam video obtained by The Baltimore Sun showed Civilian Oversight Task Force Chair Marvin McKenstry refused at least 60 requests to provide his driver’s license to police on the afternoon of April 13, resulting in the receipt of a hefty stack of tickets.

The incident began when Baltimore Police Sergeant Terrence McGowan pulled up behind a car that was double-parked in the middle of the road.

He sounded his air horn a couple of times and waved at the driver to move, but instead of complying, the driver of the vehicle, McKenstry, gestured for the officer to go around.

“He was stopped in the middle of the roadway with his flashers on … That’s why I pulled him over. I actually hit the air horn several times,” Sgt. McGowan was heard explaining to another officer in the video.

“Impeding?” the other officer asked.

“Yeah,” Sgt. McGowan replied. “And [I] waved for him to move forward, and he shook his head no and waved his hand out the window and told me to go around him. So I hit the horn again. He wouldn’t go. Then she got out of the car, and I pulled him over, and it went downhill from there.”

The video showed Sgt. McGowan approached McKenstry’s car and informed him that their interaction was being recorded. And then he asked for the driver’s license and registration.

McKenstry, who is an associate minister at the Victory House of Worship Church in West Baltimore, did not comply with the sergeant’s request, and instead argued about why he had been stopped.

“Are you refusing to give me your license and registration?” Sgt. McGowan asked in the video.

“I was dropping off a passenger, son,” McKenstry said, and then went on to try to make a phone call.

When Sgt. McGowan stopped him from using his phone, the man yelled for the woman whom he’d just dropped off to call “Ed.”

McKenstry was appointed to the oversight task force by Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh, and his passenger was Danielle Kushner, another member of the civilian oversight panel, the Baltimore Sun reported.

Additional officers arrived, and the traffic stop continued for 50 minutes, according to the Baltimore Sun.

At one point, McKenstry got out of the car, put his hands on the roof, and told Sgt. McGowan that he would have to arrest him, the video showed.

Another officer on the scene attempted to de-escalate the situation

“You're making this a bigger issue than it has to be. All you have to do is show your license,” the officer told McKenstry.

"It doesn't have to be an issue at all, because I don't have to be unlawfully stopped by a sergeant in the Baltimore City Police Department after leaving Judge Bredar's courtroom. I don't have to do that,” McKenstry ranted. He was referring to the Baltimore PD’s consent decree hearing he’d just attended before U.S. District Judge James K. Bredar.

“License and registration sir. It’s not an unlawful stop,” Sgt. McGowan told McKenstry.

“You can't stop in the middle of the roadway,” the second officer said.

McKenstry argued with the officers and tried to get them to arrest him, the video showed. However, the officers did not respond to his antics, and continued to request his license.

At one point in the video, McKenstry replied to the request with the question “or what?”

“Or you will be subject to arrest,” Sgt. McGowan said.

“I asked you to go ahead and do that, so why haven't you done it?” McKenstry asked in the video, sounding more belligerent.

“Because I think that you’re letting your emotion get the better of you sir,” Sgt. McGowan answered him.

“There's no emotion. I sat in my car and spoke calmly to you. I was minding my business,” McKenstry replied.

The sergeant again tried to explain that he didn’t want or need to arrest McKenstry for the traffic offenses.

“What you fail to realize, sir, is you don’t need to go to Central Booking for this sir,” Sgt. McGowan says. “Provide me with your license and registration.”

After more than 60 attempts to get McKenstry’s license and registration, Sgt. McGowan returned to his vehicle to write citations for a number of infractions, the Baltimore Sun reported.

“I gave him two chances to drive off. And then when I did conduct the traffic stop, I gave him multiple chances just to give me his license and registration so that he could have a contact receipt and that I could advise him of the offense that he committed and he could leave. He didn’t want to do any of that. He wants to instigate a problem,” Sgt. McGowan told another officer on video as he sat in his car writing the tickets, according to the Baltimore Sun.

He told the other officer he’d heard McKenstry yelling about Sgt. McGowan not knowing who he was.

“That's right,” Sgt. McGowan said. “That actually goes in my favor, because that proves that I treat everybody the same. I have no idea who he is. Doesn't matter who he is."

Sgt. McGowan wrote a $60 ticket for stopping in the middle of the street, a $50 ticket for refusing to provide his license, a $50 ticket for not having his registration, and a $290 ticket for “willfully disobeying a lawful order.” The video showed the sergeant as he explained the details of each citation to McKenstry.

Then McKenstry refused to sign the tickets, so Sgt. McGowan wrote him yet another $50 ticket for that infraction.

In all, he received five tickets totaling $500, Baltimore Police Spokesman T.J. Smith told the Baltimore Sun.

“He’s never going to admit it, but he’s going to get home at some point and realize that this was all foolishness, when all he had to do was provide his license and registration. And if he disagrees, and believes that he’s been stopped unlawfully, that’s why we have a court system. He can go to court with his tickets and request to be heard by the judge,” Sgt. McGowan said to another officer when they were back in their car, the Baltimore Sun reported.

“Situations like this make me love the body camera,” the other officer replied.

“Yep, because I’m not gonna even have to testify on this one,” Sgt. McGowan said. “I’m just going to play the video.”

Afterward, it turned out that the “Ed” whom McKenstry was referring to at the beginning of the traffic stop was none other than Inspector General Ed Jackson, a former colonel who served on the oversight panel with McKenstry and Kushner before he returned to work at the Baltimore PD in February, Smith confirmed, according to the Baltimore Sun.

The inspector is head of the Office of Constitutional and Impartial Policing.

The Baltimore PD spokesman said McKenstry’s phone call to Inspector Jackson “didn’t have any bearing on the outcome of the traffic stop,” according to the Baltimore Sun.

McKenstry told the Baltimore Sun that the traffic stop “was a misunderstanding that’s been resolved.” However, he wouldn’t say how it had been resolved or comment on his exchange with police.

“My focus is on the task force and completing that work for the city of Baltimore,” McKenstry said.

Smith told the Baltimore Sun that he was not aware of any of the citations having been dropped.

Police Commissioner Daryl De Sousa told the Baltimore Sun in a statement that he thought the sergeant “did a good job in a tough situation.”

“He didn’t want to make an arrest and he was very patient. This is a situation that officers encounter on a regular basis,” Commissioner De Sousa wrote. “We are working with Mr. McKenstry to continue to improve upon police and community relations. We hope that this encounter can be used as a positive training tool to help build relationships.”

You can see the video of the traffic stop below:

Comments (41)
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JBo
JBo

Baltimore...that's a stunner.

JBo
JBo

Let's see...Baltimore. Home of Mayor Catherine Pugh and DA Marilyn Mosby. Not really a surprise.

shamrocm
shamrocm

Also the home of Minority House Leader Palosi; but that's another story for another day...
Are these "Civilian Oversight Committee" members vetted the way the police officers the "Oversee" are vetted?

angryAmerican
angryAmerican

Yet another prick that thinks they're above the law and especially the law officers! This one and the one in the car should be removed from the Review Board as too damn arrogant and anarchist to be in the position!

merlin9
merlin9

Wow

g $
g $

Google ‘Maryland Case Search’, there is a lot of entries for a Marvin McKenstry, in various forms, but nothing about this stop. Maybe because the paper tickets have not made it to the District Court, assuming the Sgt is not E Ticket Certified? Or the matter has closed Administratively? Hmmmm?

How can this gentleman be impartial, if he so entitled?

Fdlore1
Fdlore1

That was really hard to watch, looking at that perspiration stain under his arms was tough! This wasn’t surprising at all, when you give people a little bit of power it goes to their head......they’re called name droppers! I bet those citations get lost!

GHarvey
GHarvey

should have stomped a mudhole in his chest and arrested the dumbshit

lauraaz
lauraaz

Baltimore! Enough said!

BigDogOps
BigDogOps

Black Privilege

Ronin922
Ronin922

That officer was ruthless. Professional but absolutely ruthless. Well done.

Ijakob
Ijakob

...just another one that thinks he's entitled... well he is.... to all the tickets!
What would have been nice is to see him take a 30 second ride on a tazer... ;O)

Katarina
Katarina

Many thanks to Marvin McKenstry for giving us a shining example of just why we definitely need more education and reform....for civilians. The offficer was a shining example of education, professionalism, knowledge, patience and duty to the Baltimore community. He did every thing he could to avoid placing this man under arrest, and succeeded. Bravo!
It would seem the civilian oversight committee has done a remarkable job of showing why they are no longer needed. Allow these fine officers to carry on with their duties of improving Baltimore further.

Just-My-Thoughts
Just-My-Thoughts

If this man is an associate pastor, he must not have read this in Romans:
Romans 13 New International Version (NIV)
Submission to Governing Authorities

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.

LEO0301
LEO0301

Why is this man in a position of making recommendations about the police department? It's obvious he has no respect for the law and intentionally tried to get arrested to further some black agenda. To say this encounter can be used to further police community relations is a joke. I also noticed that our resident trolls are suspiciously silent about this incident.

Steve Linares
Steve Linares

Way to play your race and name drop card !

Marxest
Marxest

He was trying to start something. Not sure what his goal was. The officers handled him well.

Debkk9
Debkk9

wow..let me guess..democrat??? He really must think he's something. Why , when they get stopped, do they always have to let you know who they are or who they know? And why drag it out..just take your ticket (or tickets) and go...or better yet..move the fucking car when the officer asks you to...duh

Lt Retired OCPD
Lt Retired OCPD

I would have towed his car. I can’t count how many numbskulls that I have just got out of the car to tell them they have violated the law and give them a verbal warning and they actually talked themselves into getting several citations. Good job to the Officers. Wouldn’t take the bait.

Cstuartsr
Cstuartsr

So this guy is the chair on the Police Oversight Panel and a associate pastor. He should be setting and example of how to respect Law Enforcement and act how God would want you act but he acted like he was entitled and above the law because of who he is. Also he should be able to do what he wants to do just because. Well, I hate to tell him left doesn’t work like that. It doesn’t matter who you are not what committee you serve on you have to obey the law. Defying man’s law is defying Gods law and this man defied all of the above! People wonder why!

NTPD935Ret
NTPD935Ret

This should have been a 3 Step Arrest.

  1. Asked him
  2. Tell him
  3. Arrest him

Should have taken about 2 minutes, not 50. What a waste of valuable patrol officers time and city money.

John-Brown
John-Brown

@g $, this happened almost a month ago. It certainly should be in the Maryland Case Search. It would be very sad if the citations had been deposed of, but we are talking about one of the most corrupt city governments in the country.

John-Brown
John-Brown

@NTPD935Ret, you are so right. And I saw at least 3 other officers there to deal with this asshole, who would be the first one to criticize the police for not doing enough to combat serious crime in Slaughtermore.

Bill d
Bill d

Body cameras are no good when the city of the dindu pays out tens of millions to black people who refuse to obey lawful orders. Corrine Gaines shot at police with a shotgun and her family got close to 40 million.
Let them have what they want: every cop should quit and let the drug dealer with the biggest army run the hood.

charlesjandecka
charlesjandecka

Another "fat cat" wannabe slob wasting City resources by being a violatin' moron! They come in all colors, sexes and levels of immaturity.

tday1973
tday1973

what an asshole..got a little power and thought he was above the law..guess since the FBI lets Hillary and all other Democrats walk for major shit, this assholes think they run the system now.

Rascal1966
Rascal1966

What an entitled POS!!! He thinks his black privilege allows him to do whatever he wants without consequence!

Dr Shoe
Dr Shoe

What, don't you people realize that Liberal Demoncrats are above the law? Liberals have completely ruined Baltimore, even the Orioles suck!

Old Hawg
Old Hawg

Dr. Shoe - I'm holding out hopes that the Orioles will get better. As for "Murdermore", I hold out no hope whatsoever.

NomonK
NomonK

Some people think they are above the law, this fellow is one of them. I would agree with a previous comment that this is a case of Black Privilege because I'm Mr. Big Shot.

Sipowicz
Sipowicz

That asshole should have been arrested. Dont need 60 requests to provide license and registration. Way too much dialogue. Mr Moron thinks he is above the law. Typical black schmuck especially in Baltimore. It sucks in that city! Shove that race card SON!

HankT
HankT

This is an absolute disgrace ! Who Hired this ASSHOLE any way ? He should be fired. He had 5 cops there for a violation that he received anyway ! Who pays for that Mercedes ? Waste of tax payers money not to mention the other officers could be doing something more important ! JACK ASS ! If this guy was as important as he likes to think he is, they would have bowed and let him go ! LOL I did NOT see that !

Proudoftheblue
Proudoftheblue

typical angry black man

overwatcher
overwatcher

Baltimore is gone forever
because of evil apes like this one.

believer2003
believer2003

this guy i patient

SheepDog1
SheepDog1

Looks like shit in Baltimore hasn't changed since the days that "The Wire" was filmed. Reminded me of old Clay Davis.....Sheeeeeeeee-it!

smitty195
smitty195

For those of us who have been in situations like this, it sucks. We are just doing our job, and then a guy like this purposely prods and pokes us so that we can make an arrest. That's what he wants----he wants an arrest. You know why? So that the instant the officers touch him, he begins screaming and flailing around screaming, "They're beating me!!! They're beating me!!! Oh my heart! My heart!! I think I"m having a heart attack! I can't breathe!!! All because of a parking ticket, they're harassing me because I'm black!!!!!!". They know how to play to the cameras because they have been trained how to do it. It's HELL for all of the good cops out there who just want to go to work and do a good job. In my opinion, you have to be a Saint in order to work in the s**t hole that is Baltimore. My parents were born and raised in Baltimore, and I can assure you it did not look like it does today back when they were kids. Look at any inner-city that's all screwed up, and what do you find? Liberals run the show. 100% of the time. That's a topic for another day I suppose, but this guy should be kicked off of whatever "Impartial" police committee he's on. He is obviously a racist jerk who has no business being on ANY committee that goes anywhere near police.

smitty195
smitty195

I should also have mentioned something important in my above comments. I wanted to say THANK YOU to the Sergeant and the other officers in this video for going to work every day and trying to make a small chunk of the world a better place, even when the so-called "leaders" have no desire to do to. I think you guys are still being baby-sa​t by the Feds​ aren't you? That's an Obama thing, and I hope Trump puts a stop to it quickly. I noticed that the Sergeant had to give the guy a Federal contact form (the yellow form) at the end---I guess that is courtesy of Obama as well? It's amazing how badly that guy wanted to go to jail. I also wanted to note a slight difference in laws between there and where I worked in California (a city in the San Francisco Bay Area). If a person refuses to sign a traffic citation (infraction), they go to jail. We can't give them another ticket for refusing to sign---it's mandatory arrest. We try out best to convince the people to sign, it's not an admission of guilt, blah blah blah, but in the end, if they still don't sign then they're off to jail.

Mrjim138
Mrjim138

i for the life of me don't understand why these dam Obama entitled blacks act so dam stupid just go along with the program then if you have a problem take it to court .dam its so easy

Milman
Milman

It's Baltimore.. Enough said!! The sad part is: As this bull continues, the good cops will quit, retire, or just leave. They will be replaced by power mad, corrupt cops.... You think it's bad now? Just wait.... Idiots.


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