Union: Cops Didn't Have Rifles Or Enough Cars For Major Gunfight

San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association said officers that responded to a major shooting couldn't get rifles

San Francisco, CA – The San Francisco Police Department didn’t have enough patrol vehicles or rifles when they responded to a shooting which ended with six people being shot.

The San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association said the patrol unit ran out of vehicles to respond to the incident and the deputies who did make it to the scene did not have patrol rifles.

“Inadequate equipment and an aging and insufficient patrol fleet put the public and law enforcement officers at risk,” said San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association President Kenneth Lomba.

The March 21 incident happened in a San Francisco barber ship.

Police were called in after reports of a man with a gun.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, it was one of the alleged gunman’s relatives that called police.

Some of the people who worked at the barber shop were relatives of the gunman. Six people ended up being shot including a police officer, a juvenile, and the suspect, according to KGO-TV.

Lomba said the police can’t protect the public if they don’t have enough cars to respond to incidents such as a mass shooting.

The San Francisco Deputy Sheriff’s Association called on the Sheriff’s Office and government officials to address the lack of patrol vehicles and rifles.

The suspect, Jehad Eid, 21, was one of the six people shot. Eid died later that evening.

Fox News reported that Eid was a Palestinian immigrant who was on probation following a 2015 armed robbery. He had come to the U.S. as an infant.

Witnesses told the San Francisco Chronicle that a police officer tried to get Eid’s attention by calling him “White Sox hat,” which was the type of baseball cap Eid was wearing. That prompted Eid to pull out his gun and start shooting, the witness said.

The injured officer was shot in the leg and was listed in fair condition the day after the shooting, according to KNTV-TV.

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Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@FpsK9Handler
He said 50 feet, not yards. Where would you be shooting 50 yards in an urban area?

LEO0301
LEO0301

@Hi_estComnDenomn You said "And cops and citizens would be better armed if CA didn't enact the racist Mulford Act decades ago" What does the Mulford Act have to do with the police being better armed? The law was to prevent citizens from marching down the streets carrying a loaded firearm. It had nothing to do with what the police could carry.

Shooter218
Shooter218

Could be like my department and have to wait for the gun car. Oh and if you are working the Morning Watch good like because they are off duty.

cmitch
cmitch

@Hi_estComnDenomn Wrong on both counts. Actually in Chicago and very well versed with pistols and rifles.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@cmitch
So how does a rifle help you in a gun fight on a city block, in a tight building like a barbershop, over a pistol or shotgun?

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
There you go, showing your absolute incapability of seeing the bigger picture again.

If a community is against guns, that most definitely has an affect on what they want their cops to carry, as you're seeing in the story above.

LEO0301
LEO0301

@Hi_estComnDenomn The law, if you bothered to read it, has nothing to do with law enforcement. That was my point. The article doesn't talk at all about what the community wants. It basically says the police have inferior equipment, including a lack of cars to respond to a major crime scene. "“Inadequate equipment and an aging and insufficient patrol fleet put the public and law enforcement officers at risk,” said San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association President Kenneth Lomba." Read the article, putz. You might learn something.

AllenRhodes
AllenRhodes

Why don't the cops simply just bring in their personal weapons? I can afford to own an AR-15...

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cmitch
cmitch

I know this- an AR with a 12"+ barrel is heck of lot more accurate than a 9mm with 5". Especially from a distance. No one said to go in guns blazing.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@cmitch
That's my point. You keep mentioning distance. Where are you getting all this distance in the Bay Area?

If your argument relies on distance, then all cops on a city block should carry sniper rifles.

civpol1128
civpol1128

Ok, some of you must not live in Kaliforina, and know anything about San Fransico. The city and county of San Fransico is patrolled by the SFPD, made famous in the streets of San Fransico TV series back in the 70's, plus the Dirty Harry movies. The picture in the article shows SFPD officers, not San Fransico Sheriffs Deputies.

civpol1128
civpol1128

Sorry about that the following is taken from the SFSO web site regarding the Field Operations Division of the SFSO;
Canine
Central Warrant Bureau (CWB)
City Hall Security, which includes the Community Assessment and Referral Center (CARC), and Public Utilities Commission (PUC)
Civil - Community Relations and Evictions Assistance
Court Services including: Civic Center Courts (CCCH), Hall of Justice Criminal Courts (HOJC),
Juvenile Justice Center (JJC) and Hall of Justice Lobby Security (HOJS)
Department of Emergency Management (DEM)
National, State, City-wide and District Elections
San Francisco Sheriff’s Department Homeland Security Unit
Emergency Service Unit (ESU) including: Crisis Negotiation Team (CNT), Mutual Aid Mobile Field Force (MFF) and Special Response Team (SRT)
Sheriff's Patrol Unit (SPU) including: San Francisco General Hospital (SFGH), Laguna Honda Hospital (LHH) and 9 Neighborhood City-run Clinics)
Transportation Unit, Did anyone see a patrol section???? I didn't and I have over 27 yrs of city, international, county and now federal law enforcement experience. So forget the rifles v pistols from the SFSO, SFPD is the lead agency in this homicide, plus do you see any deputies in tan shirts and green pants ??

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@cmitch
From the vehicle to the barber shop is well within pistol range. And just from the image of the article you linked, it looks like they are out in the open.

Again, i don't know where you're getting all this distance and open space when you're talking about San Francisco.

davidebrwn
davidebrwn

Thank obumbler for denigrating cops with the tools they need.

spd522
spd522

Just because it is within pistol range doesn't mean it is the best weapon for the task. I can shoot 200 yard targets with a 22 LR pistol but I would rather have a rifle. I will explain some variables that you obviously don't have the background to understand. There are other people in the barber shop. Accuracy is critical and the shot offered may only be limited exposure. The officer may be required to shoot through glass, a barber chair, or other obstacles. The bad guy may be wearing body armor that will easily defeat pistol rounds. Even at the maybe 20 -25 yard shot, the officer may only get a head shot on a moving target. In all of these variables the rifle would easily be the better choice. Don't believe everything you see on TV or in the movies. It seldom happens that way.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@spd522 none of those variables apply here, or in any recent local case. if you keep adding variables, you can justify any weapon being the best weapon.

spd522
spd522

In almost all instances other of any distance where sighted fire is required, the rifle or carbine will be the better choice. Every round fired requires accountability. Under actual stress of a shooting, most people , cops and military included, don't have 100 % shots on target. Unless you make a shot to take out the central nervous system, it will almost always require multiple shots. Or you could make a head shot with a rifle. One shot. You may be OK with rounds flying around the business but I prefer to use the best tool for the job and end it quickly with as few rounds spent as possible.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@spd522
I'm glad you prefer that. Your next step should be lobbying for these cops for their state to give them more money for rifles, even though San Francisco is a grid city. I'm sure they will listen to you.

WalterL48
WalterL48

That they need for a situation like that is the DP-12 Double Barrel Pump Shotgun. 16 rounds. Fires all kinds of rounds.

spd522
spd522

My dept furnished rifles but I carried my own so I could set it up the way I wanted. New ARs are down in the $400 range now. Any officer should be able to scrounge up that much to have that option available if the city won't provide it.

spd522
spd522

@Hi_estComnDenomn Yes. You know what I was asking .

USNVET5
USNVET5

San Francisco the land of FRUITS and NUTS that even when they catch a murder they set them free . Land of Pelosi ,one for the road feinsten , madam boxer and jerry the moron brown want to disarm the police so illegals will be safer