Lawmaker's Bill Would Block Police Access To 'Military Equipment'

Lawmakers have identified police access to equipment as the issue.

San Diego, CA - Local lawmakers drafted legislation that would restrict police departments' access to what they have termed "military equipment."

Democratic Assemblyman David Chiu and Assemblyman Todd Gloria created the bill which would require departments to ask permission to get "military equipment," hold a public hearing so that people can oppose it, and then get majority approval from the local government, according to KSWB.

The bill's definition of "military equipment" includes equipment not used by the military.

Included in the list of defined military equipment, is equipment that is generally used by a SWAT team, such as wall-breaching devices, explosives, and firearms that fire rounds of .50 caliber and greater.

Other items included in the list are necessities for large departments, including crowd control protective gear like helmets and shields, as well as long-range acoustic devices that agencies use to issue orders to crowds.

Some of the items on the list could be potentially life-saving such as bullet-resistant vehicles and drones which could be used in searches.

“Our streets in California are not war zones, and our citizens are not enemy combatants,” Chiu said, according to KSWB. “Law enforcement in California are our partners in public safety. They are not military generals, and the weapons they carry should reflect that reality.”

Gloria agreed, according to KSWB, saying, “State and local law enforcement are a public safety service, not an occupying force. Militarization is not necessary in order to keep our neighborhoods safe.”

If the law passes, it would go into effect Jan. 1 2019.

Law enforcement agencies who currently possess any of the listed equipment would not be grandfathered in, and would have to obtain special approval to keep their equipment or get rid of it by May 1, 2019.

Comments (55)
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cayman2020
cayman2020

They continue to show their ignorance and these people are supposed to be serving the public.

rover77
rover77

they detest law enforcement as much as they do civilian gun owners

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

Good. Cops don't have the training to operate a lot of that equipment anyway.

Get your own toys.

LEO0301
LEO0301

Is this yet another cry for attention from you? The reality is that the police entrusted with those weapons do know how to use them. This bill from the idiots who run California is just another example of why your state is the laughing stock of this country. The people who run it have no business doing so yet idiots like yourself continue to elect them. SMH

JBo
JBo

California...nuff said.

4bconsulting
4bconsulting

These liberal socialist A Holes seem to have forgotten the bank hiest in L.A. where the robbers had automatic weapons and held off LEO's for hours. These clowns couldn't run a bingo contest. LEO's in CA need to band together, update their resumes and put out feelers for agencies in other States who appreciate their skill sets. The clown that said "our streets aren't war zones" is an idiot. Can yon say MS13 ??

Aaron57
Aaron57

Look up the North Hollywood Shootout, and then say they don't need better equipment.
You keep saying you were in the military. Would you show up to a mission, expecting to fight a fair fight with the enemy? No, you show up with overwhelming force, to stop the fight as soon as possible.

Poileas
Poileas

A civilian can buy used military equipment. A civilian can buy a full auto weapon, what makes it military equipment is that it currently belongs to the military. Any stolen valor puke knows this.

JBo
JBo

A pretty good percentage of cops are former military or currently reserve military who have trained, handled and used far more complicated equipment than what was mentioned in this article.

Yashti82
Yashti82

What these idiots failed to realize is the criminals and gang bangers have military style weapons and gear. If the police are involved in a Gun battle, they will be outgunned.

LBRS
LBRS

People seem to forget things like the Beverly Hills bank robbery where the robbers had full auto weapons and the police was out firepowered.

RunCop
RunCop

Stupid liberal pukes!

Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

Yeah here we go another educated comment from one who never wore the badge. I'm pretty sure they don't just hand out stuff and tell the officers have fun with it. I denote this as the dumbest comment of the week on here. Oh and good morning to you kind sir.

Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

"Other items included in the list are necessities for large departments, including crowd control protective gear like helmets and shields, as well as long-range acoustic devices that agencies use to issue orders to crowds." Wow this is real smart. So now protective gear is military equipment? And a loud speaker? I don't know how anyone with half a brain chooses to live in California. By far the worst state in the union.

Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

I realize many naysayers might be too you to remember this, but this incident is what made the police of our nation realize the criminals had them out-gunned. They had to borrow weapons from a local gun store. 9mm Berettas and .38 specials were of no use in this incident. Remember those two guys, in North Hollywood that pulled that bank robbery? Larry Phillips Jr. and Emil Mătăsăreanu? If not I highly suggest looking at the documentary

Katarina
Katarina

These brain dead politicians make emotional comments like this, but ignore the times that same equipment has saved lives. Just shows their untimate goal is NOT in the best interests of the country.

sonoffar
sonoffar

I rarely agree with anything politicians, especially those in Calif. have to say but, I find the idea of "militarized cops" about a deep breathe away from the South American tradition of Hit Squads and legal kill squads in baklavas. Sound familiar to any of you?
If you are so fearful of being outgunned it might be time to find a new line of work, or maybe radically improve your job skills. The whole f-ing world does its job with marginal tools and succeeds by being better at what they do than anyone else.
Try it out, brothers. See if it won't make your day a bunch better.

JBo
JBo

Google Norco Bank Robbery or watch this documentary... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQXXcFmMVNE. Talk about outgunned...

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301 @Det_John_Kimble @Thinblueline @JBo the only one of you that said anything worthwhile is JBo.

To answer you, if they want to play with military toys, they should join the military. Or press their state for the money for that shit. Military gear is for military. You don't see security guards trying to get cop hand me downs.

LEO0301
LEO0301

It's difficult to determine where to start with your idiotic comment but I'll give it a shot. Policing is not an ordinary job like the one you work and is filled with dangers. More police officers are injured in the line of duty than any other occupation. Most of those injuries comes from assaults during arrests. To not provide police officers the equipment they need to safely do the job is like saying their lives don't matter. The whole world doesn't perform their jobs with marginal tools unless you happen to be talking about some guy walking the neighborhood knocking on doors looking for work as a tree trimmer armed only with a hand saw. If a cop doesn't have the weaponry that is above what the bad guy possesses all the training in the world won't make a difference.

LEO0301
LEO0301

@Hi_estComnDenomn California has the worst quality of life on any state. If you don't believe me use that computer you claim to be an expert in and look it up. Recent events like the one in Las Vegas should be enough to convince you that some military equipment is needed to keep officers safe when the firepower of the bad guy is overwhelming. That is if you believe a police officers life matters. Tell us Cheech, is a cop's life important enough to you to protect doing a very dangerous job or should they have to work with inadequate equipment?

SeniorCitizen
SeniorCitizen

How about this. Let's ban assault weapons from the public. Then you wouldn't have to worry about being outgunned by the public. Why does any citizen need an assault rifle to defend himself or go hunting? Get rid of them.

FF280
FF280

@SeniorCitizen. What is your definition of an “assault rifle”.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
You know you're wrong, right? There are plenty of jobs more dangerous than cop. I'm not saying it's not dangerous, but you're definitely wrong saying cops get injured more than any occupation.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
If cops want more powerful weapons, then they should go through the proper channels to get them. Military equipment is leased from the government, making it federal property. Cops don't fall under that umbrella.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
And recent events like Las Vegas means more needs to be done to protect CITIZENS, not cops. He wasn't aiming at cops, clown.

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

Dispatch: "Respond to __, shots fired"
Patrol "Enroute"

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

Dispatch: "Reports that shots are froma rifle"

SheepDawg
SheepDawg

Patrol: "10-8"

hJR
hJR

The problem with an assault weapon ban from the public is that the crooks, the ones that would out-gun and attack the police, would laugh in your face -- and keep shooting. Blue lives are too important to leave to chance. You shoot at the police, you die. That is a simple, safe reality. So, don't shoot, don't die!

LEO0301
LEO0301

The difference between other professions is that law enforcement officers have to deal with the human element. Logging may be more dangerous than policing but their injuries/deaths are caused by falling logs, not someone attacking them. Failing to provide officers the necessary tools to do the job is inexcusable. In my previous comment I asked you a question that you failed to answer "is a cop's life important enough to you to protect doing a very dangerous job or should they have to work with inadequate equipment?" The fools who run the California government have run your state into the ground and this bill is just another example of the incompetence. The example I gave of the gunman in Las Vegas is relevant. A police officer was shot and killed by that maniac, Cheech. Concerning how the police get military equipment you should read this article - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-makes-it-easier-police-get-military-equipment-n815766 While you're at it read this one about officer getting injured or killed http://www.nleomf.org/facts/enforcement/

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
I did answer your question. If cops find their equipment inadequate, they should seek funding from their state to upgrade their equipment. Military weapons are for the military.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
And how exactly is CA "run into the ground"? The state alone is the 8th largest economy in the world.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
And human element or not, your statement is still wrong. Policing is most definitely not the most dangerous job. I'd rather be a cop than a logger, a coal miner, or a work on a skyscraper.

LEO0301
LEO0301

I guess you didn't read the articles. Too much effort, eh? California has been reported to have the worst quality of life issues of any state. Not only do you have homes that are way overpriced but you also have a terrible homeless problem, not to mention people crapping and pissing on the sidewalks. But keep voting democrap and you'll get more of the same. I read an article recently that more police are injured on the on than any other profession. I'm not talking about deaths, just injuries. Also, I don't think the police would hire you with that drug problem you have, Cheech.

LEO0301
LEO0301

@Hi_estComnDenomn still didn't answer my question, Cheech. Don't tell me you're high again!!

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
Yeah, you're still wrong. Police officers are not the most injured either.

I also don't believe your report. Do you get all your news from one source?

Yep, answered your question twice now.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301

You must surround yourself with people that don't know how to do a 5 second search, don't you?

LEO0301
LEO0301

I love making you jump through my hoops. You're so easy to manipulate, Cheech. I would rip you apart in a custodial interview.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
Custodial interview? No you wouldn't because 1. You seem dumb and 2. I've never been arrested and I'm 33. Chances are very good I'll never be arrested.

Thinblueline
Thinblueline

And you seem smart enough that maybe you are not 1. out committing crimes 2. running from the police 3. not reaching in your waistband or pocket while dealing with the police.....seems simple enough, LCD you can even figure it out.

LEO0301
LEO0301

As dumb as you think I am, remember I retired when I was in my early 50's and live quite comfortably in a very nice house in a premier neighborhood. I have zero financial worries and report to no one. Yep, somehow this dumb ole police officer managed to do pretty well for himself. Lol!

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@Thinblueline
It's cute when you stick up for him like you're his girlfriend.

"Leave him alone!"😢