Hawaii DPS Policy Says The Only Guns Deputies Can Be Issued Are .38 Revolvers

Law enforcement officers across Hawaii have been issued guns and ammunition that violate state policy.

Honolulu, HI – A state known for some of the strictest gun laws in the country is now in trouble for issuing guns and ammunition to law enforcement officers in violation of its own policy.

The Hawaii Department of Public Safety (DPS) has been issuing 9 mm handguns and 124-grain ammunition to sheriff's deputies and correctional officers across the state, Hawaii News Now reported.

It wasn’t until two recent officer-involved shootings that the problem came to the attention of authorities.

Maurice Arrisgado Jr. was fatally shot while making an escape attempt from the Oahu Community Correctional Center on March 1, Hawaii News Now reported.

Delmar Espejo put a sheriff’s deputy in a headlock at the State Capitol building and was fatally shot during the altercation that ensued on Feb. 18.

“They don’t follow the policies, they don’t follow the rules and people get hurt and killed,” complained attorney Eric Seitz who represents the Arrisgado family in a lawsuit against the state.

The 2010 DPS policy mandates that the state issue Smith and Wesson .38 caliber revolvers instead of the more commonly used 9 mm semi-automatic handguns, Hawaii News Now reported.

Receipts showed that Hawaii has been purchasing the wrong guns and ammunition for its law enforcement officers for years.

Ballistic tests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation showed that 124-grain ammunition expands faster and has a higher muzzle velocity that ultimately causes more damage in a target than the 147-grain bullets that state policy requires, Hawaii News Now reported.

The state also purchased $80,000 in Sig Sauer rifles that had to be put away in lockers because they also violated the outdated DPS gun policies.

The training armory also houses dozens of pepper-ball guns and less-lethal Remington shotguns that are for training purposes only because Hawaii’s DPS gun policies have not been updated to reflect current law enforcement tactics and equipment, Hawaii News Now reported.

Hawaii’s Deputy Director of Law Enforcement Renee Sonobe-Hong told Hawaii News Now that the less-lethal weapons are for training purposes only.

The sheriff’s deputies’ union clapped back at that assertion because they said all requests for utilizing the pepper-ball guns and less-lethal Remingtons have been denied.

DPS did not response to questions from Hawaii News Now about why they have issued weapons that violate policy and whether there are plans to update the gun policies in the near future.

Comments (32)
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JBo
JBo

"...the less-lethal weapons are for training purposes only."

Curious minds want to know: why bother to train to use something if you aren't allowed to use it?

LEO0301
LEO0301

I don't know where to begin....

Patriot_Dave
Patriot_Dave

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this site.

tom1961
tom1961

Because post-Obama America has made it offensive to treat criminals like criminals. "OMG, our police have a gun that might actually be useful against an armed criminal trying to escape so he can continue to harm society!" "We need to stop this. He already has the advantage that laws mean nothing to him. But making sure the police can't protect themselves will make it so much easier to be a POS. And we just don't have enough Pieces of Shit." In 5 years we won't be able to find any one willing to protect and serve.

THEDUKE
THEDUKE

.38 revolvers? Then why not also issue 1950 's patrol cars?

Cuba has a big supply.

Goodguys
Goodguys

Congratulations Hawaii liberal politicians. You’ll soon be (if not already) a crime haven and your LE officers will be immediately over powered and out gunned when the criminals with balls show up because the criminals can always source a weapon bigger than a peashooter .38.

Better to enter the 21st Century before some of your naive idealistic policies get some good LE folk killed. Hold onto those Sig rifles, they’re a great gun.

Rayb
Rayb

Are the allowed to have a sling shot?

Blueberry moon
Blueberry moon

America is the only Country in the world that Criminals have more rights than Law Abiding Citizens and now Law Enforcement! Something is bad wrong here! It's the cry babies that monument about the Civil War offends me take it Down! We should let everyone who wants to live in America move right in and Use Taxes we payed to Care for us when we get old to support them and all Their Children! We need to help them while we have kid's in America that only gets to eat at school! We have Homeless Families who's lost their jobs or the plants have shut down and them living in tent's and getting food where ever they can! America needs to say Enough! Let's take care of America first and when we get America fixed and people in good shape. Then we can start helping the people who needs it!

Wish505
Wish505

Got to understand that this is Hawaii we are talking about.

Chief Deputy
Chief Deputy

We just want to sound them not kill them even though they just shot up a school full of kids. Thus is total Bullshit on behalf of their legislators. Doctors have for years tried to stop hollow point ammo because it was hard to save the scumbag's life. Too damn many politicans are lining their own pockets. Loved to know what weapon and ammo they carry.

Gramercy
Gramercy

Well, the law is the law...requirements are requirements. They should be held accountable for violating their own policies...or put the policies up to a vote to change them.

tfort
tfort

Follow the policies, guys. It’s not that hard.

BrevardMarc27
BrevardMarc27

What in God’s name is happening in this state? Obviously, people who haven’t a CLUE regarding the streets have been writing LE policies at the expense of Law Enforcement. I wouldn’t live or work there if they gave me an entire island. This is nuts.

RPG156
RPG156

I love it! The policy is SAF, so we are just going to ignore it. They got away with it for 9 years. They must have some really competent administrators...

Mig Alley
Mig Alley

And for Gods sakes, don't let the cops have radios and cell phones!!!!!

Stanracer
Stanracer

Stupidest thing I 've ever heard. They need to get into this century.

OldVet
OldVet

So change the policy!

TarnishedCopper
TarnishedCopper

The policy is only 40 years out of date.. They wouldn't want to make any hasty changes!!!

PapaJon
PapaJon

Do they require the officers to only carry one bullet in their shirt pocket like Barney Fife? The only reason I carried a 38 was as a backup in an ankle holster.

checksix
checksix

North Hollywood CA (LAPD 1997), Newhall CA (CHP 1970), Miami FL (FBI 1986).

PhillyBlue
PhillyBlue

I'd expect nothing less from the state that elected Mazie Hirono...enough said

J10107
J10107

Politicians would rather pay alleged victims than review and update outed laws from the 1960's and 1970's.

But the firearms and ammunition police carry shouldn't need to be specified by politicians, other than to say, "Police Officer's will be issued any equipment deemed necessary by the highest ranking commander in charge of the department," so as better technologies and methods become available, they can be adopted or implemented as soon as the training or equipment funds are approved by each individual town, city, county or state.

Chris Mallory
Chris Mallory

If government employees are given the privilege of being armed, then 5 shot .38 revolvers is all they should be allowed to carry. Citizens should always be able to out gun government employees. The rights and safety of citizens are more important than the lives of government employees.

dh41144
dh41144

Maybe they can point their fingers and go "pew pew pew'

HenryBowman
HenryBowman

Clearly, the solution is to throw all the officers in prison, as Hawaii would do to any other citizen under their tyrannical, unconstitutional gun laws.

CWO4USCGCBPORETIRED
CWO4USCGCBPORETIRED

Un-effing believable. Although the number of total crimes committed in Hawaii are small compared to NY, CA, FL, IL, etc. crimes involving guns are on the increase in Hawaii.

What's going to happen in Hawaii is police officers are going to be killed because they are sorely outgunned. Criminals don't follow gun laws - they don't regulate what they carry; knowing the police are undergunned is going to benefit the criminals.

If I were a criminal in Hawaii I'd go buy a "Bullet resistant" vest. Unless a police officer aimed for my head that 158 Grain, Lead Round Nose bullet would not stop me...

Hawaii you've turned Paradise into a Criminal's Paradise. Shame on you......