Federal Bill Would Require Cops To Ask Suspects Not To Kill Them Before Shooting

U.S. Rep. Lacy Clay plans to introduce legislation that would establish a federal use-of-force standard.

St. Louis, MO – U.S. Representative William “Lacy” Clay (D-Missouri) announced new legislation on Friday that would change the use-of-force standard for federal law enforcement officers.

Clay’s proposed measure, known as the PEACE Act, would require police officers to use de-escalation techniques before resorting to deadly force, KMOV reported.

The measure would require states to enact similar use-of-force legislation in order to qualify for federal funding for their law enforcement.

“It would set a new standard. And it makes sense,” Clay told reporters at a press conference to introduce the PEACE Act on Aug. 9. “If the rest of the civilized world can abide by these standards, then it helps us get to a place where we need to be in law enforcement.”

“This new act... changes the way that communities are policed,” he said, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “Today we continue to strive towards making our country a more perfect union where black lives are respected and valued.”

The bill, co-sponsored by U.S. Representative Ro Khanna (D-California), was introduced on the fifth anniversary of the death of Michael Brown, a controversial officer-involved shooting that led to riots in Ferguson and the promotion of Black Lives Matter.

“Ferguson was a dramatic symptom of an illness that is prevalent across our nation” in which some officers “hired to protect and serve essentially terrorize our communities,” Clay said, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

But Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson was cleared of wrongdoing in Michael Brown’s death by a St. Louis County grand jury and a U.S. Department of Justice investigation under President Barack Obama’s administration.

The federal investigation concluded that the evidence supported Officer Wilson’s claim that he was acting in self-defense and that Brown was attacking him when the officer opened fire, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Clay told reporters that he thought that Brown's unprovoked attack on Officer Wilson “could have been defused in another way,” the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

“We’ve learned the names of black men and women that should not have to be known solely because of their deaths by law enforcement: Mike Brown, Philando Castile, Sandra Bland, Eric Garner and far too many others,” Clay said.

More than 20 additional lawmakers have signed on to support the PEACE Act, which stands for Police Exercising Absolute Care with Everyone.

Donald Mihalek, executive vice president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association Foundation, pointed out that every federal agency already has a use of force policy that requires deadly force only when an imminent threat of danger to the officer or another person exists.

“Attempting to further restrict a [law enforcement officer’s] use of force parameters will only endanger the officer or others,” Mihalek told Blue Lives Matter in an email. “The NYPD Officers who had buckets and water hurled at them is indicative of a use of force dynamic from their leadership that discourages and punishes officers for taking action.”

Mihalek was referencing multiple recent incidents in New York City where criminals assaulted police officers responding to emergency calls by dumping buckets of water on them.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s unanimous 1989 decision in Graham vs. Connor has long been the standard for use-of-force decisions.

“It provides a reasonable officer standard for use of force decisions based on a totality of circumstances,” Mihalek told Blue Lives Matter. “The court recognized you can’t judge these incidents that often occur in microseconds with 20/20 hindsight.”

Washington University law professor Peter Joy said the courts have held that an officer in reasonable fear for their life and safety is permitted to use whatever force they deem necessary, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

“They don’t have to make a judgment [such as] will a stun gun be sufficient,” Joy said.

The professor said he doubted Clay’s bill would pass, partly because of its conflict with stand-your-ground laws enacted by multiple states that allow regular citizens to defend themselves in an attack, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

Joy said that if the PEACE Act passed, law enforcement officers “would have less options than citizens would have under stand-your-ground.”

During his announcement of the proposed legislation, Clay said that law enforcement supported his plan, KMOV reported.

However, St. Louis Police Officers Association Spokesman Jeff Roorda, said that is not the case for local law enforcement.

“It’s a very uninformed position the congressman is taking,” Roorda told KMOV. “Every police department in the United States has a continuum of force that they go through before they use deadly force. There’s not a police department in the country that doesn’t use deadly force as a last resort. I don’t know what the goal of this legislation is other than making noise.”

Comments (193)
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Anomie88
Anomie88

Today, I will not answer the radio call that there is an active shooter in your child’s school. Today, I will not answer the radio call that your boyfriend or husband has come home drunk and is beating you again. Today, I will not answer the radio call that your 16 year old daughter, who is very responsible, is four hours late coming home from school. Today, I will not answer the radio call that your store has been robbed or your house has been burglarized. Today, I will not stop a drunk driver from killing someone. I will not catch a rapist or a murderer or a car thief. Today, I won’t investigate the person peeping in your windows at 3 AM when you are asleep. Today, I won’t find your teenage child or college student stranded on the side of the rode without cell phone reception or injured in a crash on a secluded road. Today, I won’t perform CPR on your mother or father. Today, I will not answer the radio call that a man has a gun or tried to abduct a child or that someone has been stabbed or is trapped in a burning building and is need of rescue. Today, I will not save your child that you locked in a car or the child you were too busy to watch who went outside and fell into the swimming pool, but that I revived. No, today I will not do that. Why? Today, I was suspended from duty for doing my job, because the media, a community organizer, a lawyer who formally represented terrorists and a mayor or governor or congress person who ran on an anti-police agenda, who are afraid to tell people how it really is AND all who know nothing about policing, have vilified my profession. Or today, I was killed by a drunk driver while I was helping push a disabled car off the highway. I was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop to simply tell someone that they had a taillight out. I was killed in a traffic accident rushing to help a citizen. I was shot and killed serving a warrant on a known drug dealer. I was killed by a man when I came by to do a welfare check because his family was too busy. I was killed trying to stop a bank robbery or a grocery store robbery. I was ambushed checking a house or a business or a school. I was ambushed by people who have heeded the anti-police rhetoric and want lawlessness to succeed. I was killed doing my job. A chaplain and an officer will go to a house and tell a mom and dad or a wife or husband or a child that their son or daughter or husband or wife or father or mother won't be coming home today. The flags at many police stations were flown at half-mast today, but most people won't know why. There will be a funeral and my fellow officers will come, a twenty-one-gun salute will be given, and taps and bagpipes will be played as I am laid to rest. My name will be put on a plaque, on a wall, in a building, in a city somewhere. A folded flag will be placed on a mantel or a bookcase in a home somewhere and a family will mourn. There will be no cries for justice. There will be no riots in the streets. There will be no officers marching, screaming “no justice, no peace” because that would be “racist.” No citizens will scream that something must be done because that wouldn’t be part of the social agenda. No windows will be smashed, no cars burned, no stones thrown, no names called. Only a lonely someone crying themselves to sleep tonight will be the only sign that I was cared about and that I am missed. I was a police officer.

Lesstalkmoreaction
Lesstalkmoreaction

Yet another (D) virtue-signaling for fantasy instead of adapting to reality.

T00R
T00R

Lacy Clay is an idiot. The parkland cop got jambed for failing to take action, now he wants to prevent cops from taking action. What's next, mother may I shoot this clown? Idiot.

Shastabeau
Shastabeau

I've got rocks in my yard that are smarter and have more common sense then these law makers!

HAWAIIBLUE
HAWAIIBLUE

Totally fucking ridiculous.

qazwiz
qazwiz

so, it's OK to kill idiots that cannot plead for their life fast enough???? sheeze!

i think every politician that voted for that bill/law should be confined with a bunch of armed psychopaths until they recant their mental illness

THEDUKE
THEDUKE

Clay "It would set a new standard. And it makes sense,” Clay told reporters"

Only to you MoFo, only to you.

Excalibr4
Excalibr4

“This new act... changes the way that communities are policed,” he said, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “Today we continue to strive towards making our country a more perfect union where black lives are respected and valued.” That's all I need to hear. Blacks are 35 times more likely to murder someone than whites, statistically (FBI report). The day blacks have the same crime stats as everyone else, I will listen. Until then, they need to STFU.

JBo
JBo

Just FYI:

"The bill is endorsed by: National Action Network (NAN), NAACP, ACLU, Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, NAACP – Legal Defense and Educational Fund (LDF), Amnesty International, Drug Policy Alliance, Bend the Arc: Jewish Action."

Chief TT
Chief TT

It's time to re-organize the militia. If lawmakers won't let our officers do their job, then it's time we the people do.

DRPS909
DRPS909

You’ve got to be kidding! That second will get officers killed for sure.

Truckerdude
Truckerdude

It's almost getting to the point that the police might have to do either a state or Nationwide strike. Let crime run rampant for a few months and the politicians will grovel on their hands and knees.

Bud
Bud

Clay has been a racist for as long as he has been in the public view, and probably before. He will never be branded as intelligent, he is and has always been a total idiot!

jakki taylor
jakki taylor

It is the media's fault that "we know the names" of Blacks dead after encounters with Law Enforcement. We should know these names from their CRIMES or behavior.

stockjock
stockjock

Please don’t kill me Mr. Bad Guy or I might have to hurt you. Oh wait I hesitated and I’m already dead? Well then I guess it doesn’t matter, have a nice day.

These people really have it wrong. The current use of force standard, where if you or someone else is in danger of death or serious bodily injury, deadly force can be used, is an appropriate standard.

If certain groups of people are getting arrested or shot by police more than others, it suggests that it’s because a disproportionate number of those individuals are engaged in improper or dangerous criminal activities.

To suggest that this is an issue of race is a disservice to the brave police who protect us all.

I believe that I arrested far more minorities than Caucasians, and I also believe that I used force against far more minorities than Caucasians. Believe me, it was never about race.

I think the issue is primarily socioeconomic, so you have to look at the communities that are infested with gangs and drugs and criminal activity. It should not be a shocker that a disproportionate percentage of individuals from those communities have a disproportionately bad experience with law-enforcement.

This bill jeopardizes officer safety.

shooter
shooter

Boogers and Lowest will probably laud this.

PD732004
PD732004

Where do these jerks come from, and how about the idiots who vote them into office. Grow some America!!!.

LitheSteel
LitheSteel

Glad I am done with the shit show.

pmnara
pmnara

I'm speechless reading Lazy Clay at the moronic bill trying to pass!!! Walk a day in a police officers shoes on the midnight shift!!!

BravoAlphaCharlie
BravoAlphaCharlie

Michael Brown was a dope smoking criminal thug/bully and any police officer that I know, including myself, would have done the same thing Officer Wilson did. Brown committed a strong arm robbery, then sauntered down the middle of a street then refused a lawful and reasonable order from a police officer. Then he Advanced on the officer's vehicle and prevented him from exiting the vehicle while Brown assaulted him and tried to take away his firearm. after a shot was fired during the struggle Brown initially started to withdraw but then after officer Wilson ordered him to stop Brown, in a rage, charged officer Wilson and officer Wilson, defending himself properly and lawfully, by putting Brown down like a rabid rhino. There is no such thing as a good or a bad police officer shooting. There are justified shootings and unjustified shootings. This was clearly a justified shooting. The rioters were wrong. The press was wrong. Black Lives Matter was wrong. Obama was wrong. Holder was wrong. Lynch was wrong. The LEFT was wrong. Clay was and is wrong. Governor Nixon was wrong. The St Louis Post Disgrace was wrong. And what do all these have in common? They all hate law enforcement, they all hate decency and goodness and they all hate people being held accountable for their criminal behavior. But the biggest tragedy in all of this is that Michael Brown went into eternity and who is to say what his destination was. I pray to almighty God that he paid attention in Sunday School and somewhere along the line he gave his heart to Jesus but I wonder if he did. And praying about it now changes nothing. The left loves to claim that men should remain silent when the topic of abortion is being discussed because men cannot have an abortion. I would really like the left to apply that same logic if you can call it logic to this discussion. If you are not a law enforcement officer or have never been a law enforcement officer then keep your mouth shut about things you cannot possibly understand.

EDWARD 59
EDWARD 59

sbookie
sbookie

What an fn idiot. Hopefully someone will break into his house and do harm, but not before he can say please don’t kill me.

acrucifer
acrucifer

Completely insane and uninformed proposal that hopefully will be soundly defeated. If it does pass you can take this job and shove it @!

WatchYourSix
WatchYourSix

That's not a de-escalation technique, it's a death sentence. It will be mistaken for weakness and embolden criminals more than they already are. Chances are, anyone brandishing a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument is prepared to use it and in that split second it takes to plead not to be killed, you're dead. Where do these clowns come up with shit like this?

IronMike76
IronMike76

And.....he needs to put on a police uniform, ride with the police, and continue to do so until he himself could use his technique in a real situation

CinGuz
CinGuz

Maybe the officers should invite them to have a tea party. Is this guy crazy?? These criminals don't give a shit. All these rules & regulations that are handcuffing trained officers is going to come back & bite (mostly the black population) right in the ass. More law abiding citizens are going to be forced to conceal & carry because we need to protect ourselves, & we will get away with shooting criminals.

gradypa
gradypa

You Can`t fix stupid !!!

BuckSavage
BuckSavage

Somewhere a village is missing an Idiot. What a fucktard.

MRM
MRM

You have lost your godam mind

MSK
MSK

Is this guy Clay and the others that signed on in support of this proposed law really this stupid or is it just another minority voter grab by the democrats.

beyondpissedoff
beyondpissedoff

In the fantasy land that this fuggin libiot lives, do they sit around singing kumbaya while unicorns shit skittles into ice cream cones?? "Please put down your weapon and let's talk about this". WTF!!! The civilized world may be able to abide by his standards but the NAPA's are NOT civilized!!! Violence and killing is ALL they understand, kill or be killed. Go preach your BULLSH!T on the west and south sides of chiraq and see if you make it out alive! The REAL world is out there, give it a visit.

Ron1617
Ron1617

Just how stupid are we going to get?

LCeeKay
LCeeKay

This Insanity Needs to Stop, The "Silent Majority" better wake up and stop these Liberal Nutcases, before this Country called America, ceases to exist.

Dilt
Dilt

Anyone who uses the mike brown shooting to justify further restrictions on law officers is a complete moron.

Gunsmoke16
Gunsmoke16

They are going to get police officers killed. Advise them if this legislation causes one police officer to be killed that they will be charged with capital murder for passing the legislation. Whomever elected these idiots to office needs to recall them immediately.

User 69
User 69

That’s a dumb suggestion! If Ur race would stop their crimes & etc, they wouldn’t have be concerned Re laws for just one race. Some politicians today , such as U, are ridiculous & don’t belong in office.

Sandy50
Sandy50

That is soooooooo dumb, plez bad guy don't kill me, let's talk.

Fridayjo
Fridayjo

These cowards should have to suit up and patrol the ghettos for a month and have the same restrictions on them that they want to legislate on police. I would love to see these idiots perform under these laws. I think after changing their draws they would not come back for a second month. Why you say because their cowards. They're afraid to say what the real issue is and that most of these big city's its a war zone because of the spew of hate for law enforcement. They need to fix the problems of society and stay the hell out of law enforcement of which something they know nothing about.

BerettaAPX
BerettaAPX

This idiot POS is the same demo-rat congressman who insisted, sued and protested to have a painting that showed police as pigs hung at the Capitol. This treasonous useless minority moron is an embarrassment.

oldbat
oldbat

this piece of shit should be voted out of office.

Kortney1983
Kortney1983

How about all officers just stand down. Let’s see what happens. Keeps the officers safer and gives everyone else exactly what they want. I personally think it might shut some drama down! ALSO I am so sick of hearing about race. Last time I checked, police officers are kind of like a “Heinz 57” type ordeal. I mean is this what happened during the Nazi time period? I’m not still hearing about that. OMG GET OVER IT! If everyone will raise their children to simply love and respect, things would get just a tad bit easier, but no we like this hate and drama!

bethembrey
bethembrey

Perfectly written

Bstn
Bstn

"During his announcement of the proposed legislation, Clay said that law enforcement supported his plan"
He's a liar on this statement!! And any Chief who'd even entertain this mans crazy "bill" is a coward. Clay is a POS who know nothing about being an officer & 1st officer to attempt this unfortunatly is a dead officer! Elected folks have lost their damn minds so much so this country is screwed!! I would never recommend any 20-something year old get into law enforcement today the job and society isnt worth the target these folks have put on cops backs!

IggyRu
IggyRu

What fn intern sold him on this foolish idea

Lane Crawley
Lane Crawley

Mr Clay ignores the fact that Police Officers have a right to survive while working among hardened Criminals both White and Black. To protect and serve means that Police Officers White and Black shall interrupt Criminal Behavior no matter how unpopular this may be with Criminals. Sheriffs, police officers, marshals, constables, agents all have the right to survive violent attacks and continue with the duties of Law Enforcement. We shall not water down use of force policies that will make it more likely that Law Officers will be killed, it shall not be allowed!

Boomer1961
Boomer1961

Clay is a total embarrassment to St. Louis, a bigoted, racist moron of single digit IQ that can only do as his handlers tell him to do!

KTCSon-shine
KTCSon-shine

So let’s see, if a thug has a gun ready to shoot an officer or already has done so, or killed raped or maimed others, the thug perp is allowed this asinine request?! Clay is a cowardice 🦇 💩 loon, and I think he should go out into the community during several nights with the police and test his theory out to see just how effective it would be! These jackasses who despise our LEO’s, should be written off the list for help, if ever they should need it.

Stevervative
Stevervative

How can someone be so fundamentally naive or so fundamentally stupid and still be elected to Congress? Any guess as to why the public confidence in Congress is below 12%?

LEO0301
LEO0301

“Today we continue to strive towards making our country a more perfect union where black lives are respected and valued.” Except that blacks don't respect or value their own lives as demonstrated daily in communities across the country (see Chicago). This is just another dumb idea, in a series of dumb ideas, that black politicians are trying to force on the public that will have serious implications.

RPG156
RPG156

To call Lacy Clay a moron is an insult to morons.

Choirboyz
Choirboyz

It’s a Saturday Night Live skit on the use of force continuum... absolutely ridiculous...

graybeard421
graybeard421

That's about the dumbest thing I've heard any member of Congress say. And, they say a lot of dumb things.

Popcop.M1
Popcop.M1

I'm convinced we have active domestic terrorist politicians. In fact, I know we do.

OldVet
OldVet

What do you expect from a Black Lives Matter Democrat who's agenda is still to blame the officer for Ferguson, Mo. instead of the strong armed robber punk, Mike Brown. Must be behind in the reelection polls.

gallowayg
gallowayg

STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

iaff801
iaff801

Maybe they could stop and have tea and discuss it like adults first....

Dra71
Dra71

St Louis? Oh Pease will this stop all the black on black crime that has made St Louis what it is? There were 66 homicides per 100,000 St. Louis residents in 2017 — more than 10 times the national homicide rate.

trainbuff
trainbuff

Bahahaha!

Skycop
Skycop

Take these liberal politicians and give them a gun. Dump them in a prison yard and throw the inmates some knives. Let's see how long it takes until the shooting starts. After all, they are in a secure facility and the inmates have rights too. Let's see how their theory works in reality.

Judgesson
Judgesson

You can’t fix stupid

Idiot need an enema to clean out his cranium!

Void of any brains 🧠

maggiemoo1312
maggiemoo1312

What the HELL does this have to do with black lives? All races of people shoot law enforcement too.

P51d007
P51d007

I was never an officer, but was a dispatcher. That call on the radio I always hated was send code3 help, or shots fired.

Lilnatvsavg
Lilnatvsavg

Leave it to a dumocrat to come up w/a moronic bill like this! "Oh yes Mr. Criminal please dont shoot me. Could you please wait while I ask permission to shoot you?" So lets just let the animals run the asylum!

Milman
Milman

Just when I thought we had reached rock bottom regarding Democrat "Law Makers", I find out, I was Wrong!! This clown needs a month long "ride along" , on the night shift, for a month!

artw44
artw44

It's always about race, he only listed people who were justified actions. No police were in the wrong in any of them cases. When is he going to tell gang bangers to stop and ask the other gang members to not kill them? What a fool. Only a crisis if it's a cop shooting black people, not when it's black on black. Everyone of those people he mentioned would be alive if they complied with police orders.

Mama1959
Mama1959

If this ain't a piece of shit.....

Wish505
Wish505

Everyday we are now seeing Bill of Rights and Constitution violated simply because of stupid fools like L. Clay and the socialist Democrats.

JMK2244
JMK2244

Anomie88: VERY well said and so right on!

Big Jess
Big Jess

Need to do some ridealongs with the police to see how much time you have to "deescalate" situations. That might change a few minds. Better yet, come walk the halls, units, and compounds of a few U.S. Penitentiaries for a couple of weeks.

ikaika
ikaika

Thank you, Anomie88, for your very moving response. It ought to be required reading for all elected politicians at every level.

Clay is a racist and so is his bill. He might as well have said that he wants to make it against the law for any LEO to shoot a black for any reason. Unfuckingbelievable.

starrman69
starrman69

"Please don't Kill BANG!! BANG!! BANG! BANG! me"... THUMP!!! Sure am relieved to be off the job...LEO's Watch Your Six, the Feds are "behind" you....sigh.....

Stanracer
Stanracer

If this legislation goes through you will either see a lot more police officers getting gunned down, or, you will see police officers getting fired for not following federal law. At least they will still be alive. Terrible idea.👎🤔

shamrocm
shamrocm

U.S. Representative William “Lacy” Clay (D-Missouri) is a total asshole.

hades67348
hades67348

traveled all over the world.and also served in law enforcement in Europe merica is the only country where police do deescalate situation of conflict

7kpd
7kpd

The real problem is the people who vote for idiots like this man and those who don't vote at all. It's sick and getting sicker out there.

Trump 2020
Trump 2020

This law will never pass

Trump 2020
Trump 2020

Fuck Clay and all Dumbocrats

skeeter
skeeter

Has this idiot ever been out on patrol and experienced what happens in the streets? I think not.

Barryt
Barryt

F You Clay!

REALITY_CHECK
REALITY_CHECK

How fu*king stupid can Democrats really be? Good luck getting it pass the SCOTUS...

Deb35802
Deb35802

As soon as I read the headline I knew that it was proposed by a out of touch with reality DemoRat! This kind of thinking crap emerged back in the 1960s and has only gotten worse!

Raymelson
Raymelson

Are these folks for real how in hell do these idoits get elected

Excop4life
Excop4life

Stupidest thing I ever heard

motorcop.55
motorcop.55

This jackass is another example of the stupidity of the Liberal Leftist mindset.., totally unglued !!!

Chaplain  Five  O
Chaplain Five O

🤦‍♂️

VGC
VGC

Here's another imbecile from the Commiefornia school of how to attempt to ruin your state and country. This idiot will never get of the ground after making up a stupid law in his brainless head. Please God save us from this kind of creature!

lauraaz
lauraaz

Was this member of congress born stupid, or does he have to work at it day after day. Let's hope the "Show me state" has now been shown how stupid they were to elect this person without a brain.

Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

This sounds almost as intelligent as Boogers.

Scattered
Scattered

Well let's make LEO's jobs even more UNSAFE Jackass. Go ride with them for a day or 2 or a week and then come tell us what you think! What a moron!

Happyfamily911
Happyfamily911

I am beyond speechless. I can't even muster up the words to be sarcastic. Every time I open my mouth no words form that is how speechless I am. I have always said I would vote Democrat or Republican IF the candidate appears to be a good and honest person that has some, if not all, the same beliefs as I do but, right now the Democrats are just proving to be ******* stupid!!! Can they not see that these "black this and black that" laws are creating nothing more than more racial dividing between the races? Having LEO's asking that stupid statement...? Why don't the black politicians have the black people, before they commit a crime, tell their soon to be victims "I won't kill you." Or any race for that matter. Are victims ever listened to as they beg for their lives before they are murdered? White, black, brown or yellow victim what criminal listens? I love this country but we are being ruled by a bunch of brainless idiots.

Digger15108
Digger15108

I swallowed of the Scrabble tiles from my game. My shit makes more sense than him.

unholyone
unholyone

What's really scary is that idiots and crazies like Clay get elected and re-elected. Prime example: Rep. Hank Johnson. Remember him? Guam going to tip and sink if we put more troops there.

nenasmiller
nenasmiller

Oh my God!

ajl1957
ajl1957

Morons

Colombiano
Colombiano

Is never the pos's fault!!!

Gramercy
Gramercy

This has got to be FAKE NEWS! Lawmakers certainly aren't the brightest bulbs..but this is ridiculous from word one! How did he get elected? And how is he serving the people?

Tailgator
Tailgator

If brains were cotton he couldn't make a tampon for a ameba !

Boatswain71-99
Boatswain71-99

Bless his heart, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

SaltySarge450
SaltySarge450

#1.) Only answer your calls, #2.) give that call all of your due diligence, no matter how innocuous, #3.) Milk that call til it hurts, #4.) let the city burn.

That what I tell my officers. Proactive policing is a thing of the past. This will all sort itself out in the communities that hat police. Youknowwhutimean Verne?

observer1
observer1

As dumb as he is imagine how ignorant his supporters are.

observer1
observer1

This rotten politician is a Black Power type who has been elected about 9 times. When leftist white politician Cohen tried to join the Black Caucus Clay told him NO with the following quote - Clay told Cohen "that he could not collaborate with the Congressional Black Caucus for the benefit of his black constituents 'until your skin turns black.'" Also he's the one that hung the Cops as Pigs painting in the Capitol building. He represents a heavily crime ridden district in the crime ridden city of St Louis.

BeaH
BeaH

Still the idiot dumb a$$ in front of the cop when he asks a gunman not to kill him/her

Ziva6
Ziva6

What an embarrassment to St. Louis this man is. How can the people of St. Louis keep electing this bozo? Have they no sense? I'm embarrassed to even go into the city any more! In between this joker, Wesley Bell and Kim Gardner, The city is doomed. I have never seen such stupidity in my life.

mlo23
mlo23

The article doesn't actually say what's in the bill. There's just the headline, which is almost certainly not accurate. The minimum to be expected from an article like this is to quote the problematic passage from the bill's text.

mlo23
mlo23

This part is silly.

"The professor said he doubted Clay’s bill would pass, partly because of its conflict with stand-your-ground laws enacted by multiple states that allow regular citizens to defend themselves in an attack, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported."

They aren't "stand-your-ground" laws that allow citizens to defend themselves. They are self-defense laws. Not the same thing. "Stand your ground" only refers to not having a duty to retreat. That's all.

Also, self-defense laws aren't something recently enacted by the states. Self-defense is a fundamental principal in English/American law that's always been there.

FormerDeputy
FormerDeputy

What kind of moron is this "Representative"? I guess he has forgotten who he actually represents. Hey dumbass!! You do not represent ANTIFA, BLM, KKK, and all the other criminal elements that your ignorant Bill is seeking to protect.

bew1956gmailcom
bew1956gmailcom

People going into politics should be required to take an I.Q. test. Obviously, this gentleman would have failed.

Old Sniper
Old Sniper

Gonna lead to more CCW citizens reaching out to protect the LEOs - Once deadly force is offered, we don't have to do stupid shit like this before acting to stop the threat. (and yes, I'm still quite proficient at my screen name - this citizen can open the trunk and "reach out" from 1800yds+ in defense of a fellow citizen (officer).... )

legalimmigrant8
legalimmigrant8

brown was a useless piece-of-shit trying to assault a police officer and FORTUNATELY the officer was able to go home alive this evening. The city of ferguson was half destroyed, aided by the lawless traitor obama and his cronies, lead by the criminal holder. The whole situation had NOTHING to do with racism, it was a brutal acy of violence, perpetrated by brown against a store owner and the LAW Enforcement Officer, period. And now we have this retard ro-khanna is trying to make the law enforcement useless and defenseless. The MOSTLY fine officers are putting their lives on the line each day, and MOSTLY for crappy payment. Shame on this stupid guy from cacafornia, although it's not a surprise that this ""idea"" comes from a state which totally ignores most of the Federal Laws and sides with criminals. Time to vote this retard out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bracer
Bracer

Using Ferguson as an example for anything dealing with use of force would only demonstrate a lack of understanding relating to use of force. This US Rep has no clue, much like many politicians.

Gary4206
Gary4206

So what part of stop drop the weapon and following police instructions is not part of deescalation tactics. It’s time to start sending these video cams to these idiots so they can see how violent people are.

Lsmft
Lsmft

This headline is beyond misleading, it's a blatant lie. If you read the bill, it has a requirement that "when feasible" the officer first identify themselves, then give a verbal warning. That warning consists of a) a request that the person surrender, and b) notifies the person that force will be used if they resist arrest or flee. There is NOTHING in the bill that even insinuates what this headline says.

You are all falling for fake news.

akristoff
akristoff

I have always felt that a police officer should have to say, Simon says, drop your gun, before he shot you.

Mactracker
Mactracker

Check the local news in St.Louis where Spacey Clay is a representative and you will find news on the number of children killed this year by thugs. They are forming committees to try and solve this epidemic of kids being killed. Clay would tell you it was the children's fault cause the didn't beg for their lives. As my grandmother used to say "The lowest thing in the world is Whale shit and Spacey Clay looks up to that."

Baron235
Baron235

When are rapists, murderers, wife beaters, drug users, drug dealers, arsonists, drunk drivers, pedophiles, burglars, thieves going to be required to use deescalation techniques? Perhaps Lacy should attach that to his bill, the fricking idiot!

Sarge66
Sarge66

Wow, he is incredibly misinformed about the Ferguson case.

Rdhdkid
Rdhdkid

When are the lefties going to man up and stop with the D thing and start calling themselves C's? (That's C for communists, but you can call them the other C-word if you want to. It fits as well). D's have been extinct for a number of years.

Ragman69
Ragman69

Let's make a law that requires these law makers to perform the job of cops for a year if they attempt to make laws that will hinder them. Last I heard, Brown was rushing toward towards Wilson and I'm sure it wasn't because Brown wanted to get close to him and apologize for being the idiot his mama raised. So Clay wants cops to try and reason with idiots during something like that eh? Liberalism is a mental disease...and he has a co-sponsor from CA....lol

Teijeiro2
Teijeiro2

IF YOU ARE SO DAMNED IMPRESSED WITH THE POLICE IN OTHER COUNTRIES - MOVE THERE. I LIKE POLICE WHO SHOT CRIMINALS. IT CULLS THE HERD.

jhnjdy
jhnjdy

So I guess the Police are shooting and killing too many Democrat Law Breakers and removing them from the voting booths and it's worrying Democrats !

afo
afo

Please note that the hysterical headline on this article, "Federal Bill Would Require Cops To Ask Suspects Not To Kill Them," is NOT what the article says -- or what the law requires. I don't like this legislation either, but let's do some responsible reporting, here.

Flytrap2210
Flytrap2210

You stupid son of a bitch. You are the very reason Democrats will not win this election. You suggest a police office must take time out of his/her split second decision making time to beg for their life? Get your sorry ass out of public office as you're too stupid to represent anyone. Put on a uniform and we will see hiw fast your opinion changes. You embarrass the heck out of me being from Missouri.

BobbySTR
BobbySTR

I think it's a great idea, and should be applied equally across the board. Instead of banning guns, we should simply ask psychos to not shoot up schools or public places. It could apply to sexual assaults and robberies, too. It should be called the "Please Don't Do That" law.