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@ragnarok1943 handled it very well just above you, but here are a couple articles about where our import comes from. http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20170207/where-does-fentanyl-come-from-china-is-primary-source-in-us-and-much-is-ending-up-in-ohio

Where does fentanyl come from? China is primary source in U.S., and much is ending up in Ohio

Fentanyl claimed the lives of 75 Ohioans in 2012, but by 2015 that number jumped to a staggering 1,155.

www.news-herald.com

Fentanyl is lethal and almost impossible to keep out of the country

IN A cavernous warehouse near Los Angeles International Airport, United States Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) officers process six…

www.economist.com

And no one is sharing this information with me, i go out and find it. I use multiple sources and take what seems to be the consensus facts from all articles. I take it upon myself to research so i can pass it on to younger folks and let them draw their own conclusions once they do a little research themselves.

@Mrs10 I am all for responsible use of pain meds. I always say 'opioid abuse' vice 'opioid use ' for that reason. But coming down on doctors and pharmacies is akin to coming down on corner boys or street hustlers; those guys aren't the ones allowed to bring drugs in by the boatload.

Effective war on opioid abuse would be holding pharmaceutical companies legally and financially responsible, but I'm sure they donate heavily to government reps that continue to let them thrive.

Hi_estComnDenomn said: @DieselDawg Spouting more bullshit i see. Fentanyl is largely shipped from China, not Mexico.

HCD...would you kindly share the sources of your information regarding the inflows if these very dangerous drugs to our shores. You seem to have your pulse on all manner of illicit issues. Pray tell, who is sharing this information with you?

Anyone notice if Stormy Davis was in the area?

The problem with fentanyl, of course, is that it is a synthetic opioid which is made in a lab, including converted pigsties in China where most of the illegal fentanyl comes from. Since it's dirt cheap and super powerful it is mixed with real heroin (made from poppies). Unlike pure fentanyl made in real labs, the Chinese fentanyl is liable to be made with just about anything and in various strengths. And, of course, it is not always uniformly mixed by local drug dealers and some has more fentanyl than is safe. That's why they have these overdoses. Anyway, even if you somehow shut off fentanyl from China, other Countries or people right here in the US are bound to make it. Probably they already do. The guy who invented fentanyl in 1960 was Paul Janssen in Belgium. He also invented carfentanil, a similar synthetic opioid, as an elephant tranquilizer, which is about 100 times stronger that fentanyl. That can also, and has been, made in a pigsty. Jenssen, a genius, also invented haloperidol (trademarked as Haldol) in 1958. It was the second big anti-psychotic invented after Thorazine in 1950. Not surprisingly, hardly anyone abuses Haldol, or even wants to take it as it doesn't make them high and turns them into a passive zombie. Schizophrenics and psychotics get high and out of control by not taking their meds. Hospital emergency departments often use a B-52 shot (5mg Haldol + 2mg Ativan, a tranquilizer) to subdue out of control patients.

To all on this thread...and especially to HCD; HCD is a troll who just hangs out on this site to stick his finger in your eye. He's just here to satisfy some egotistical malfunction in his sad life. Typical bombastic progressive saying outrageous things to get a response. The more you respond, the worse he gets. Watch now, he's got to figure a way to attack this post...or ignore the temptation to do so. What say you HCD?

@Hi_estComnDenomn actually I read the other day that our generation - the so called "Y" or "millennials" is full of entitlement and are big whiny babies. I suppose it's all a matter of perspective. As for the opioid crisis - something much more interesting and relevant than your fight with @JBo (who's story I really admire) - as a person with chronic pain who lives in the Midwest (South-Central to be accurate) I can tell you that the crack downs on drs and pharmacies is doing little to curb the deaths (usually by fentanyl overdose) and is causing those with legitimate issues and above-board histories of use an awful time. Here in Oklahoma we've passed medical marijuana law which should definitely help (although since I'm a cop's wife I'll be screwed there). Hopefully easing the war on MJ will have a direct effect on reducing the amount of fentanyl abused in our state. It will be interesting to find out.

@JBo Dredge*

And not everyone is cut out for military. And virtually no job will cover for college alone nowadays.

And again, good for you personally, it's good to see you have progressive ideas. But the vast majority of you are a giant societal drag, and don't share your ideas about energy or college or many other important issues that you won't be alive long enough to live through the repercussions.

No, I don't believe you. My generation is not a "durge". You said my generation is a cancer and we should die. As far as competing in the 21st century...my generation and previous generations, in general, is what helped you get to the 21st century.

I support renewable energy. I drive a hybrid vehicle and have solar panels at my home. I like renewable energy but I'm not a fan of land based wind power. Nuclear energy, while not renewable, is an option that is efficient if handled correctly with safeguards. The main problem with spent nuclear fuel is that it's...spent. It's gotta go somewhere and sooner or later we'll have to transition to renewable energy.

I believe that all generations should be able to go to college and not incur mountains of debt. They can do what I did...join the military and then use the GI bill (or whatever it's called today) to get started. While that didn't come close to covering my school expenses back in the day, working while going to school and living like a pauper made up the shortfall.

@JBo Great story individually. But your generation in general is a durge to society and one of the few things holding this country back from competing in the 21st century. Don't believe me?

What is your stance on coal and fuel, versus much, much more renewable resources like solar, wind, and nuclear?

You say you paid your own way through college. Do you believe Gen Y and Gen Z should be able to do that today without incurring tens of thousands in debt?