Cops Fired, Face Charges For Telling Grandma To Physically Discipline Grandson

Tacoma Police Officers Damion Birge and Jesse Jahner refused to physically discipline the woman's violent grandson.

Tacoma, WA – Two Tacoma police officers have been fired and are facing potential criminal charges, after they told a woman that that state law permitted her to physically discipline her violent grandson.

After explaining the law to the 54-year old grandmother, the officers witnessed her striking the 9-year-old child with a belt, The News Tribune reported.

The Tacoma Police Department fired both officers on Oct. 24, and a decision as to whether or not they will face criminal charges is expected to be made in January of 2019, The News Tribune reported.

The incident occurred on June 5, 2017, after the woman left her 9-year-old grandson at her residence with two Catholic Community Services social workers while she went to fill a prescription.

The child has been diagnosed with developmental disabilities, and had also been involuntarily committed to the hospital just two months prior.

During the 20 minutes that the woman was away from her home, the boy flew into a rage, she told The News Tribune.

“He smashed the windows and he smashed everything he could reach, and he was bleeding and glass was everywhere, windows were broken, coffee pots were broken all the dishes were smashed and he had knives in his hands, butcher knives and he was bleeding,” she recalled.

“He said, ‘I’m scared and I don’t want to hurt you,’ and he was bleeding,” the woman explained. “He gave me the knives.”

The boy had threatened to kill her many times in the past, the woman said.

During the boy’s rampage, one of the Catholic Community Services workers called 911, and Tacoma Police Officers Damion Birge and Jesse Jahner responded to the residence.

“One of them was really a big man,” the woman told The News Tribune. “He and his little buddy reminded me of Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble.”

According to the officers, the child “sat on the couch and smiled” amid the shattered remnants of windows and dishes, while his grandmother told them about what had occurred.

In addition to the boys’ repeated threats to kill her, the woman said she also feared that he was capable of hurting her because she was unable to move well due to a recent surgery.

She asked the officers to take the child into custody to be placed at the juvenile detention center, but they told her that was not an option due to the boy’s mental capacity and young age.

The officers asked her if she ever physically disciplined the boy.

She told them that she had held his wrists to restrain him in the past, but that the social workers told her she could not use physical discipline.

According to their report, the officers explained the state law regarding use of force on children, which is permitted as long as it is “reasonable and moderate and is authorized in advance by the child’s parent or guardian for purposes of restraining or correcting the child,” The News Tribune reported.

The punishment must also not leave more than minor temporary marks.

They explained to the grandmother that she can legally “use small items as an extension of her hand, due to her physical limitations and size. [One officer] advised [the woman] to discipline [the boy] with a belt,” the report read, according to The News Tribune.

“[The woman] asked us to physically discipline [the boy], and we told her, ‘No.’ [We] explained that it was her child and she had the right to discipline him for his actions,” the officers’ report read.

The woman retrieved her grandson’s belt and handed it to one of the officers, who then slapped it against the table, she said.

“They proceeded to tell me that I had to use my belt and beat my boy,” the woman alleged. “They told me I had to, and they weren’t going to call an ambulance or anything.”

She claimed that she didn’t want to it, and that she pleaded with the social worker for help.

“The police officer said, ‘Don’t look at him. He’s nothing,’” the grandmother told The News Tribune. “’We’re the ones you need to listen to.’”

“I said, ‘I can’t do it, I can’t do it,’” the woman claimed. “They told me if I didn’t do this, they were gonna call CPS, take the boy from me, and I’d have to pay child support and never see him again.”

She said that one of the officers told her that he and his partner tell parents to physically discipline their children all the time.

“The little guy – the Barney Rubble of the two – he said, ‘This is what we do. This is what we do all the time,’” the woman claimed. “’You have to do this.’”

“And I did it,” she said. “I hit him with the belt.”

According to the police report, the boy cursed at his grandmother, hurled an object at her head, kicked at her, cried, and threatened to kill her as she hit him with the belt several times in their presence.

“Of course, my boy fought with me, because why wouldn’t he? I will never forgive myself,” the grandmother told The News Tribune. “They told me to wait until he was sleeping and beat him in his sleep. They told me to hit him for every window that was broken. It was absolutely the worst day of my life.”

She blamed the officers for what occurred, and said she no longer trusts law enforcement.

“I will never call the police again,” she said. “They tried to convince me that this wasn’t violence. I said, ‘That wasn’t violence? Then what was it?’ They said, ‘It’s just discipline.’ These guys were really prehistoric.”

However, the woman continued to plead with the officers for help.

“[The woman] pleaded that she fears he would kill her today or tonight,” the officers said in the report. “Due to her true fear of [the boy] and his clear dominance of the residence, [we] advised her we would involuntarily commit [him].”

The officers then transported the child to the children’s hospital, where he told staff that his grandmother had whipped him.

“They told me they would bring me up on child abuse charges,” the grandmother recalled.

She then told the hospital staff that the officers “made” her “beat” the boy, according to the paper.

“They made me do it,” she told The News Tribune. “They said, ‘You need to beat this boy.’”

The officers were suspended shortly after the incident, and were later fired at the conclusion of an internal investigation by the department, The News Tribune reported.

The Washington State Patrol conducted the criminal investigation, and turned its findings over to Thurston County prosecutors in September of 2017.

“If justice can be served, we’ll do it,” the boy’s grandmother told The News Tribune on Dec. 20. “We need closure.”

Comments (35)
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Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

“I will never call the police again,”

I'm sure they are all hoping you don't. Gee I can't see anything wrong with this situation. (roll eyes) Grandmother? Where are the mother and father? Social workers? No discipline. Wants police to do the discipline part.

The little psychopath needs to be on meds. He's only 9 but seems likes Jack Torrance from The Shining.

Folks, every single police officer has been on a call like this more than once, and I'll bet you 90% of them have recommended some discipline. So what we're gonna fire 90% of police now? Tacoma must be full to the brim with Liberal minded numb skulls like Portland. And this grandma if she's the one that's supposed to be in charge of this animal needs to get it in gear. No, the government is not supposed to raise your kids.

And officers potentially facing charges? Charges for what? Trying to make grandma take care of the problem herself?

motor5345
motor5345

I cant believe there is not more to this story. So now we fire officers for not disciplining citizens kids when called upon and want to charge them criminally . Are you F--king kidding me. I wish at times in my 42 year careerer I could have beat the crap out of some of these little shits but I didn't, why not, Not my job to raise your kid. Kid has a history of mental illness and I believe the officers knowing this did the right thing. wonder how big this poor little nine year old is? Your damed if you do and damed if you don't. More training right!!! BS . When was the last time the Chief responded to one of these calls, Out Of Touch no doubt. Society has created this mess. Discipline you own Kids just like I did.

Officer Cynical
Officer Cynical

If you look up "bullshit story" in the dictionary, this woman's statement is in there. I don't believe a word of it. The cops "made" her do it and told her to "beat him in his sleep"? Bull-fucking-shit.

DarkPassenger
DarkPassenger

What BS!!! These officers told her what the law was for disciplining your child then she wanted them to discipline her grandson, thats not there job and bet if they had she would of filed assult charges on them. Our poor LEO'S can't win for losing. This is whats wrong with our younger generations they did not recieve enough good old fashioned ass whoopings and feel so entitled.

RNnLEOwife
RNnLEOwife

Federal and local law enforcement, immigration enforcement, community servant, social worker, family counselor, teacher, legal counselor, public safety officer... and now stand-in parent? How can anyone expect police officers to do their "job", when there seems to be no end to their responsibilities? Raise your own damn kids and if you don't appreciate their advice, ignore it!! Firing a police officer for giving parenting advice? Whoever their supervising officer was, is dumber than that old lady! SMH

THEDUKE
THEDUKE

Let me guess....missing Mama due to various vices /resulting economic issues , missing Dad from day 1, Grandma steps in and does a terribly poor job of controlling the resulting emotionally messed up "Jamal entitlement" child and so now the Police LEO's are expected to fix the messes the relatives have created over years then and there in just a 20 minute call? Fired? Criminal charges for the LEO's ? For what? This Senior Police Admin is patronizing a seriously screwed up community vs. backing their own officers. Grandma sounds like just another typical liar with no conscious. I saw "Tacoma" (Washington).Its not just California anymore.....Its Oregon and Washington as well. The West Coast is no longer known for "Surfs Up" ..now its known for "F'd Up".

walkintall
walkintall

Like pretty much everybody else here, I call BS. If it sounds like BS, and looks like BS, and has a BS "aura", then chances are what you've got on your hands is BS.

amdguru
amdguru

More liberal lies that hurt our HEROs! These stupid liberals are taking us back to the wild, wild west! As some point, no one will want to wear a badge and I fear those days are coming!

Mama1959
Mama1959

Nobody needs to tell me to whip my children. I can do that all on my own. And I dare anyone to try to stop mt. CPS couldn't and said good bye at the end of the investigation. That was over 30 years ago and I would do it again.

TarnishedCopper
TarnishedCopper

It is sad that we have absentee parents dumping kids on to grandma to raise. Obviously she does not have the ability to do so. Yet all the do-gooders want the cops' skin for giving her plain old common sense advice. Kids who have never been disciplined will not be disciplined at that age. This is just another kid that will probably be in and out of jail, prison and mental health facilities most of his life if he lives long enough. Grandma should petition the court on a CHINA petition and wash her hands of raising the kid. Let the parents do it, or otherwise the state. Yes I do believe the cops did step over the line, more than a step or two. Giving her the idea to physically discipline the kid and then leaving would have been a much more acceptable action, but I don't think they should have been fired, and charged criminally.

Stanracer
Stanracer

I've got a feeling this gramma is telling some tall, tall tales. We'll see what the body cam shows.

Dog rescuer
Dog rescuer

I remember when I was growing up it was okay for a teacher to discipline you if you did bad stuff at school and then you went home and got it again from your parents. It all started to go south when the government stepped in and started telling parents that their kids could call the cops if the parents try to discipline their kids. My daughter is nice threatened to call the police on her dad for grounding her and spanking her. It's been downhill ever since. Liberalism is a mental disease that is incurable unless a full lobotomy or death occurs on said liberal

artw4545
artw4545

Where were the Catholic Community Services workers when he was destroying the house. Whole thing sounds like a massive amount of stupidity.

slo1942
slo1942

He needs A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEDICATION AND A RUBBER ROOM !!!!!

tfort
tfort

First, know the law, do your job and be moral and you will not lose your job.

Second, we don't need cops instructing parents (grandmothers) on how to use illegal force - especially on a mentally ill child.

Third ,“He and his little buddy reminded me of Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble.” HAS TO BE THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE READ.

Cookie40
Cookie40

I was gonna ask if they were wearing body cams. I dealt police officers would tell you that you "had" to beat a child. The whole story is bullshit.

annasasha
annasasha

another chance to get a pay out , dang odds are so much better than buying a lotto ticket. I HIGHLY doubt that the facts are what she says. again no due process.

Milman
Milman

Sounds like she had no respect for the officers in the first place! CPS should take this child or he will kill his grandmother, sooner or later. As for the two officers.. I would never be a cop in these Liberal states.. They never support their officers.

angeleyes
angeleyes

i'm sure a good old fashion behind the woodshed was suggested or they just explained the law to her. All she could see were dollar signs at that point. she's so busy not being a parent, all she's teaching the boy is to not take responsibility. No one has said anything about whether there were marks on the boy and she probably did spank him, but it was not the LEOs "making" her do it. Such BS. damned if they do and damned if they don't. To hell with the west coast, there are plenty of other states and cities who do right by their officers.

chiefd
chiefd

I once had a mother call me to discipline her son (15 yrs old) because when she told him to clean his room, he told her F you. I asked her if she ever spanked him, or slapped his face for using vulgar language? She said, oh no, that's child abuse. I told her she could use reasonable force (spanking open handed) to discipline her child, and not call me again as I had bigger things to investigate, like burglaries and other crimes.

MrsS
MrsS

"Made her beat the child"??? I want cameras. Either these guys are both sadists, or she's a heinous liar.

rsmbdk6
rsmbdk6

This is total BS, that child needed to be spanked with a belt. He is out of control. Sick and tired of people calling the police for help and then back stabbing them. Sham on you for charging them at all for a trumped up charge. These officers were doing their job and that grandmother LIED about everything that happened. Get the facts before you judge these 2 officers for all this crap they are being accused of. Support these officers they did nothing wrong but try and help this lady with her out of control child.  Is it because One cop is black and the grandmother is white?......is that why they are going after the cops?? Why are there no pictures of these cops like you normally post? Think about this people. What BS is really going on here?