Civilian Panel Rules Shooting Violated Policy After Chief Says It Was Justified

A civilian police review panel determined that an officer-involved shooting violated police department policy.

Los Angeles, CA – The Los Angeles police chief said that a fatal officer-involved shooting in a Hollywood gym locker room was justified, but he may discipline the officers anyway because a civilian review panel said they violated Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) policy.

The incident occurred on Oct. 29, 2018 at a 24 Hour Fitness gym in the 6300-block of Sunset Boulevard after staff called police to report a naked man who had assaulted customers and security officers and was refusing to leave, the Los Angeles Times reported.

LAPD Officer Edward Agdeppa and his partner responded to the call and arrived to find a naked 30-year-old Albert Ramon Dorsey in the locker room.

The officers told Dorsey to get dressed multiple times but he failed to comply, the Los Angeles Times reported.

In bodycam video, he appeared to be calmly drying himself off.

But when officers attempted to put the naked man in handcuffs, he flipped, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Both officers’ bodycams were knocked off in the first seconds of the struggle.

The officers attempted to tase Dorsey twice during the altercation but the electric shocks had no effect on the enraged, 280-pound man, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Officer Agdeppa told investigators that Dorsey grabbed his partner’s Taser and punched her in the face.

He said Dorsey was leveling “massive punches at high velocity” to his partner’s face and head while she was also battered with the partially attached handcuff hanging from the suspect’s wrist, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Officer Agdeppa told investigators that he shot Dorsey five times because he thought the man was going to kill or seriously injure his partner.

“If I even waited any longer, that next punch could have been the deadly one,” he said. “And I did not want to take that chance.”

Dorsey was pronounced dead at the scene, KCBS reported.

LAPD Chief Michel Moore announced shortly thereafter that the shooting was justified, the Los Angeles Times reported.

But on Tuesday, the Los Angeles Police Commission determined that both officers involved in the incident had violated LAPD policy when they failed back off and request assistance before attempting to make the arrest.

And Chief Moore agreed that the officers should have tried to de-escalate the situation.

“By not observing the warning signs of a potentially violent suspect, the officers acted too quickly and placed themselves at a tactical disadvantage during the incident,” the chief wrote in his report on the incident.

He cited the difference in size – Dorsey was six-foot-one and the officers were five-foot-one and five-foot-five – as one reason the officers should not have confronted the man without backup, the Los Angeles Times reported.

But the chief ultimately agreed that Officer Agdeppa’s use of deadly force was appropriate under the circumstances, when his partner was having her head beaten by the suspect.

Officer Agdeppa suffered a broken nose and his partner suffered swelling and bruising to her face and head, the Los Angeles Times reported.

But the civilian police review panel voted unanimously that Officer Agdeppa had violated LAPD policy by shooting Dorsey, KCBS reported.

The commission did not release its reasoning behind the ruling but Chief Moore’s report said officers failed to give the suspect complete warnings before they deployed their tasers.

“The circumstances are tragic and sad, and you have my condolences as chief and a father and an individual,” the chief said. “The department seeks to resolve circumstances like this peacefully. We look to provide and hire people of character and ability to be problem solvers and negotiate through difficult circumstances. We also give them instruction and guidance as to expectations, and when mistakes are made there are consequences.”

He said he was prohibited by law from disclosing what discipline would be imposed on the officers but said that they should know how to deal with difficult situations without killing the suspect, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Comments (73)
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JBo
JBo

In the days of old when you saw someone acting dangerously by assaulting people and then assaulting the arresting officers...you just took action and solved the problem. Took 'em to jail or the ER...whichever was appropriate and moved on to the next call.

flybynight
flybynight

It's LA, who is surprised by this garbage?

Justretired
Justretired

Holly Hell, fck kilafornia and every other demo city. Let the board go out and take calls and see if they can do better.

Vodkabreakfast
Vodkabreakfast

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is a lousy business model when you’re trying to deal with a criminal opposition that considers our environment to be a bottomless target of opportunity. They are further encouraged by noticing that those who govern and lead the civil departments sometimes seem to possess the moral priorities often associated with used car salesman. Respect for law and order is being reduced to a joke graffitied on a restroom wall.

Jim H. - Virginia US
Jim H. - Virginia US

Pretty good video here...

Heezels
Heezels

That chief is a piece of shit.

James Robinson
James Robinson

Review Board? Naieve little pukes.

Just-My-Thoughts
Just-My-Thoughts

Well, here's a thought. The next time someone calls for help, dispatch needs to fill out a request stating race, age, sex, weight, height, color of clothing, if any. If the nearest squad has LEO's not matching the offending parties physical traits the call will have to wait until there are officer(s) of same or similar weight/height/race, sex are free to respond....... What kind of interaction does the civilian review board have with police before sitting on a panel and judging what the officers do? These people are idiots and the chief should be ashamed and step down.

Jbkerner
Jbkerner

They'll use any excuse to vilify police officers! That's why I'm planning to leave my birth state, as soon as I settle my brother's estate. I'm done with Kalifornia!

right on
right on

Another wish he was somebody, so-called civil rights antagonist speaks his opinion while shitting all over good officers being "forced" to do their job in a way that No police officer wants to have to do!!!! I would like just Once to see Asshole trouble makers like this goof, go out and deal Head-Up with the scum that runs amok in the streets of America and give him a badge and his wanna-be mister goody two-shoes attitude and after he was either shot or had the living shit beat out of him, listen to his outlook on what it takes to be Man or Woman enough to go out there and face the biggest POS there are, who run the streets and terrorize our society!!!!

Stanracer
Stanracer

Only in Crazyfornia.👎

Excalibr4
Excalibr4

Travesty of justice for cops. The female was being punched in the face by that gorilla and tasers had no effect. That POS who says other things could have been done is just an idiot. Too bad his scrawny ass wasn't there to show us his magical moves! Sounds to me like the guy was homeless. Welcome to the shithole, which was once Los Angeles.

yelyana
yelyana

Hmm...why don't they show the face of the officer that was beaten? What was in the perpetrator's blood stream? Does this civilian review panel have to ride along with police officers for X number of hours and go through a "shoot / don't shoot" training before they are allowed to sit on the panel? So tired of this crap!

tfort
tfort

Of course the chief approved of the shooting.... that is why police shootings have to be investigated by an unbiased entity.

THEDUKE
THEDUKE

"She doesn't speak for black Americans"

No wonder she sounds so much more intelligent.

SARick
SARick

Civilian panels are always very knowledgeable about police practices and procedures. I'm sure all LAPD officers will agree 😡

John Q Public
John Q Public

THIS IS ACADEMIC NONSENSE, RATHER THAN REAL WORLD: "they should know how to deal with difficult situations without killing the suspect" and so they should have called in the SWAT team and they could have shot him. There is no de-escalation with deranged lunatics like this. The criminal should not have assaulted the other gym members and the cops...

bronx163
bronx163

MORAL to the story here people, let these savages kill each other.

LAPD cops wake up do nothing.

They want hands off? Do just that. Let the system implode. Call swat out to every job with edp and noncompliant perps. Tie up everything. Code 2 to all jobs. Just take a report and move on to next job. Reactive policing. Let the neighborhoods Destroy themselves.

Fuck the liberal spineless chief and commie left police commission. .

Do nothing!!! N

Raymelson
Raymelson

I think this was justified how can the the law protect us if there hands are tied an a criminal should lose there.rights the moment they decide to break the law

61mouse
61mouse

Should have sent the K9 in to bite his sausage

javaguy746
javaguy746

DUHHH no surprise here, West Chicago, Mexifornia..... And you expected something different?

Burgers Allday
Burgers Allday

I like this story. The discipline will help the policeman be a better policeman in the future. Probably the best discipline would be no more pension.

Susanna Branch
Susanna Branch

Having civilian review boards give input on police protocols makes about as much sense as having kindergarten teachers regulate air traffic controllers. (no offense to kindergarten teachers). They just don't have the expertise. They are coming from an extremely uninformed place and implement their personal feelings based on an entirely different set of experiences and are often influenced by groups with anti-law enforcement agendas. The results can be damaging for law enforcement and helpful to criminals.

TarnishedCopper
TarnishedCopper

Next time let's send in the Citizen's Review Board to handle a crazed individual.....

Janko
Janko

Two different tests here. Two different standards, two different results. A shooting may be legally justified as a matter of the criminal law regarding use of force by law enforcement and still be in violation of departmental policy, as this one was.

BerettaAPX
BerettaAPX

Danny Blakewell, Civil Rights Activist..if soy boy Danny was getting his dumb skinny leftist ass kicked by this guy he'd be screaming for the police to shoot the turd.

dh41144
dh41144

I gues they forgot to say 'please'