Churches Band Together To Vow Never To Call Police

A handful of churches have said they will train parishioners to handle dangerous situations on their own without police.

Oakland, CA – A handful of churches have announced that they have teamed up with the anti-police group Showing Up for Racial Justice, and that they would no longer contact law enforcement for help or to report law violations.

First Congregational Church of Oakland volunteer leader Nichola Torbett said that the church decided to “divest” from policing, because they believed law enforcement officers had unfairly targeted “black and brown bodies,” The Washington Post reported.

“Can this actually be reformed, when it was actually created for the unjust distribution of resources or to police black and brown bodies?” Torbett asked.

According to the Showing Up for Racial Justice website, the group aimed to “lift up alternative visions for community that are rooted in love, justice, and collective liberation.”

“White people of faith have a special responsibility to interrupt a process that seeks to mobilize our community against our neighbors of color,” the site read.

The website also included links for purchasing Black Lives Matter yard signs, banners, buttons, and decals.

“All proceeds go to Black Lives Matter,” the site proudly proclaimed.

It't not clear who is actually getting the money, because "Black Lives Matter" is not a legal entity capable of receiving donations.

The project has recruited three additional congregations in the Bay Area, as well as one in Iowa City, The Washington Post reported.

The Northern California Nevada Conference of the United Church of Christ has also launched a campaign to recruit additional churches to join the movement.

“It’s a big ask to invite us, as white folks, to think differently about what safety means,” United Church of Christ Reverend Anne Dunlap said.

Instead of calling police, the churches have begun training members of their congregations in de-escalation and self-defense tactics, so that they would be prepared to handle potentially dangerous situations on their own, The Washington Post reported.

But being based in California, they made it clear that self-defense didn't involve the use of firearms.

“Our goal is to never call the police,” Torbett said, adding that none of the volunteers would ever be armed.

The movement’s leaders claimed they have not asked members of their congregations to forgo turning to law enforcement for matters outside the church, but said they hoped they would choose to do so, The Washington Post reported.

Dunlap said that resisting police was part of her obligation as a religious leader.

“You’re talking about state violence against communities. You have to speak up and take a stand about that,” she said. “There’s not a way to reform our way out of police violence but to dismantle policing as a system.”

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ShelbyCole
ShelbyCole

What else are they to do, when "To protect & serve" becomes "To enslave & punish".

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

In before other "Christians" say something like "just wait until YOU get gunned down."

Thoughts and prayers!

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

Also, shout out to Oakland, a grassroots Mecca.

RunCop
RunCop

These idiots can just call lowest common demoninator and his husband Marxshit for help!

Bryan_K-9
Bryan_K-9

These people obviously havent read Romans 13:1-2. 😇

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

"(1) Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. (2) Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

So if I'm understanding you correctly, Christian gun owners should promptly comply when Trump limits what kinds of weapons they can own, correct?

Heezels
Heezels

Lol, the only grass roots coming out of Oakland is the shit weed they schlock to each other. It’s a city so filled with garbage, even their trash football team is leaving to the “Mecca” of depravity, Las Vegas.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@Heezels
First off, Vegas is awesome.

Second, you dont even smoke! How are you aware of Oakland's bud quality?

I'll have you know, Oakland has some solid marijuana. No need for a "weed man" anymore. You walk in, show your ID, and walk out with some fire.

LEO0301
LEO0301

The truth is most police departments would be half the size of their current staffing if you eliminated certain ethnic groups from the equation. No more will the officers have to hear about Shequilla and her boyfriend Ray-Ray's trivial problems that they can't seem to resolve. When the bullets start flying (has nothing to do with Christianity, Cheech) and the bodies start to stack up, the only thing that we ask is that you hose off the blood and throw the carcass in a metal bin.

JBo
JBo

So they are going to solve their own problems without ever calling the police? This should end well.

LEO0301
LEO0301

If I was you (glad I'm not) I would check the current FBI stats concerning homicides and how a population that only represents 13% of this country commits the majority of violent crimes.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
Cops like the one you pretend to have been are proactive on certain people loitering and protesting, yet absolutely reactive to multiple drug and gun charges and other citizens' warnings. By the time Chad Wajikowski shoots up a school, it's too late.

How about less police action on weed possession and more action on opiate possession?

Heezels
Heezels

You’re being disingenuous. People of every ethnicity do those things. But the black community is responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime relative to their demographics.

It shouldn’t be a talking point that goes unnoticed.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
If i were you I'd drink bleach. But before that, I'd check stats to see that significantly more people are dying from illegal opioids than violent crime.

In fact, your favorite topic, Chicago crime, has been on steady decline. While opioid death is on an exponential rise.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@Heezels
Black people are charged with more crime disporportionally.

Explain how blacks and whites smoke weed at the same rate, but blacks are arrested 4 times as often?

LEO0301
LEO0301

The difference is easy to figure out even for a simpleton like yourself. One is self inflicted while the other victimizes the innocent. I guess we can always talk about Baltimore and the brotherly love blacks share for one another, right?

LEO0301
LEO0301

You said " I'd check stats to see that significantly more people are dying from illegal opioids than violent crime. " I responded with "The difference is easy to figure out even for a simpleton like yourself. One is self inflicted while the other victimizes the innocent."

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
But isn't illegal drug possession a crime? Especially when cops know exactly who these offenders are, because they spend so much time and effort bringing them back from the dead multiple times a week?

LEO0301
LEO0301

Police departments spend a lot of time fighting the drug epidemic. Remember when crack took over the black communities and black people would walk the streets staring at the ground hoping to find a morsel of crack to consume? Remember when black people were up in arms about the increased police presence in those neighborhoods, claiming it was racist? Remember when Obama decided to push for reduced sentencing of drug dealers because most were black? Yeah, I thought so...

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
Police departments spent a lot of time jailing crack addicts. They spend a lot of time bringing meth addicts back to life, erasing their sentences, and making sure tax payers pay for narcan and rehab.

And Obama reduced sentences for weed offenses, correct? I doubt he did that for hard deug dealers.

Either way, why aren't more opioid addicts and dealers in jail? I mean, it's a top killer in the country, you'd expect jails to be filled to the brim with opioid abusers by now. Why is it not?

LEO0301
LEO0301

I don't know that is not the case, but I'll take your word for it, Cheech. I'm just a little curious about your response concerning someone suffering from a drug overdose. Are you proposing that the police allow them to die? Obama reduced sentencing of crack dealers because he felt that white powder cocaine dealers received less time in jail. Even though crack was much more dangerous that frequently led to violent crimes Obama, as former drug dealer himself, thought those fine people who made lots of money off of the suffering of the users, should be free again to sell their poison.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
I'll ask more clearly. If cops know exactly who the opioid dealers and opioid users are, because they encounter them very frequently, why are they not in jail?

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
Ah, here we go.

The constant reports from police departments saying they have to revive the same addicts multiple times a week. The reports of coroners offices in the Midwest running out of storage space for bodies. The funeral parlors that are overwhelmed and understaffed to handle the growing pile of corpses. The pleas from police departments asking citizens for donations so they can purchase more narcan. Take your pick.

Wouldnt some of these issues be curbed if these addicts who are wasting cops' time and taxpayers' money were behind bars?

LEO0301
LEO0301

I have no idea what police departments are doing to curb the problem and neither do you. As a former narcotics detective I seriously doubt they are ignoring the problem. However, I will agree 100% that it is a serious problem in this country. The war on drugs started way before you were born, with the just say no campaign Nancy Reagan pushed yet we are no closer to stopping illegal drug sales and usage than we were back then.

DieselDawg
DieselDawg

Another classic example of why liberalism is a mental disorder.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
At least we can agree on the bullshit Just Say No initiative.

And maybe i don't know exactly what police are doing to curb opiates. But i know what they're not doing. They're definitely not breaking the cycle, and in fact I'd say they're aiding the cycle. That goes for affected police departments and the SCROTUS.

LEO0301
LEO0301

The police alone can not break the cycle. Most police work is reactive, not proactive. That's because the time for officers to do proactive policing is limited, especially in large urban departments where calls for service are so backed up they can't do anything more than go from call to call. The problem has to be addressed when these future addicts are young and not abusing the drug that is causing their problems. Of course that may not even be reasonable because as we all know, young people never think it could happen to them and they feel invincible at that age. It's a problem we seemingly have no answer to, unfortunately.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@LEO0301
That's where i don't agree. There are multiple answers.

Sure, cops arent solely repsonsible, but they hold the brunt of the responsibility being that they are in daily contact with these criminals. And if they're criminals, they should be locked up. That's something cops, and only cops, can do.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@ProUSA
Cops revive them and take them to the hospital.

Bordercop
Bordercop

Fine, let them clean out their gene pool themselves. Meanwhile, churches who are involved with aiding and abetting criminals, illegal aliens, anarchist conduct, should lose their tax exempt status and clergy criminally prosecuted.

CraxyD
CraxyD

What could possi... Nah. Know what? Not my monkeys, not my circus. I'm just gonna sit back and watch natural selection handle it.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@Bordercop haha if the Catholic church can shuffle around priests who love boys and keep their tax status, i'm sure these churches will be just fine.

Moktor
Moktor

Sure, with EVIDENCE. You can't just walk up to a junkie and say "Well, I'm pretty sure you are a junkie. Off to jail!"

This kind of ignorance is why there are unrealistic expectations for police. Next you will be saying we should be shooting guns out of hands or leave speeders alone because we should be out catching murderers.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

@Moktor
that's a really silly statement. what more evidence do you need that someone is a junkie than bringing them back to life after an overdose?

As far as shooting guns out of hands, no. I shoot. I know how hard that is to do. As far as leaving speeders alone, as soon as we have automated cars, that won't be a problem anymore.

gfc1963
gfc1963

Just giving a free ride to any criminal who wants to rob a church. Just walk in and take what you want we won't stop you!!

b1rd
b1rd

Actually I think this is a good idea.
It can accompany the idea of splitting the state into two states then letting the coastal region, LA to Frisco, secede. We would still have 50 states.
After that the LA to Frisco region could get rid of all the police and let the communities police themselves with all the de-escalation techniques they want.
They could also be in total control of their own immigration plans.
It is a win win situation for everyone. No need to change our flag either.

Grog
Grog

Frigging idiots! We'll see how that works out.

Buzz17
Buzz17

"White Silence is Violence"????? Seems to me the "silence" of black community leaders about the 50--year enslavement of their community by the democratic party-imposed welfare system & the refusal of many blacks to break the chains of poverty, drug abuse, etc. that are holding them bondage is the REAL violence these "churches" need to address. As a faithful Catholic, I put the word "churches" in quotation marks because real churches proclaim & teach the Gospel of Our Lord, serve the needs of the poor, etc. They don't continually stir up trouble for cities.

BlueDaughter314
BlueDaughter314

These churches have made themselves even softer targets. Now those wishing to do harm know that the authorities won’t be called.

momgram
momgram

Yep, let them clean out their gene pool on their own. works for me.

DaleMcNamee
DaleMcNamee

These so-called "churches" should not receive Fire and EMS services either...

Let them see to it themselves !

Marxest
Marxest

That's a risky thing to not call the police for emergencies. White supremacists like Dylan Roof and @runcop the ChumpCop have been destroying black churches and killing parishioners for centuries. This idea with the church is a bad idea.

Joba
Joba

What a shame..🙁