Chicago PD Releases Video Which Shows 'Unarmed Black Man' Draw Gun On Cops

@Hi_estComnDenomn I'm replying for myself and @pinkejon (feel free to also add your thoughts Pinkejon!) The discussion was that PJ gave stats about police line of duty deaths and your reply was about gun control. There are so many comments here so context was needed. My response:

Since the guns used to kill these officers were already illegally obtained, how could stricter gun laws (which would only affect law-ABIDING citizens) make a difference?

There are some individuals who simply want to protect themselves as they live in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the US. If they are good people of good character, I sympathize with their situation. However, if carrying illegally, they should not resist arrest or try to draw on police...that is just asking for a shootout. The real problem is the community that spreads false rumors and demonizes the police. That affects an entire community, and not just individuals.

Hi_estComnDenomn said: @Mrs10 Bullshit and you know it. Police death has declined for decades. By your logic, President Carter is responsible for reduced police death today since the decline started after his term. Surprising coming from you that you'd make such an emotional statement based on absolutely no fact or logic.

Police deaths declined due to the use of body armor, better tactics and officer survival training and trauma medicine. Despite population increases since the 1960's, the numbers of people shot by law enforcement has remained relatively constant or declined. What has increased is the felonious deaths versus accidental deaths. While the numbers are small, the felonious assaults are increasing. This guy knew he had a gun. He only had to comply. It is stupidity to reach for a gun when you know what the police reaction is going to be.

@Mrs10 Bullshit and you know it. Police death has declined for decades. By your logic, President Carter is responsible for reduced police death today since the decline started after his term.

Surprising coming from you that you'd make such an emotional statement based on absolutely no fact or logic.

@Rational human being - I know it's easier to work off of emotions rather than actual facts and laws so let me help edumacate you. Here is the law that allowed the Chicago police to stop and legally detain Augustus. "Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."

I also find it ironic you would accuse the commenters on this site of being racist while you write "Meanwhile, I'm gonna go let your daughter chokes herself on this dick, understand that all of your racist fucks are well on your our way out. " Stay classy my friend.

Rational human beings, please go back and carefully read the article. It clearly states in paragraph 3 that the officers who tried to stop him "were walking foot patrol and observed him to be carrying a gun. Considering Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation it's common sense that they would stop him.

You complain about someone referring to the protesters as "these blacks" and state " y'all need to go join the Nazi parades, you're well on your way anyway." Your no better then the person who made the generality about blacks. What gives you the right to ASSume that LEO's are Nazi's for enforcing the laws that the City of Chicago enacted?

Your observations about the video are complete fantasy. He was given a lawful order from a police officer and he CHOSE to not follow it. Why did he choose not to follow the order? Because he was carrying the gun in VIOLATION of the law. Plain and simple if he had followed the law and obeyed the directions of the officers he would be alive today. It was his CHOICE to run away and pull his gun and he lost his life for it. Why is it so hard for certain people to just follow the direction of police officers?

Your constant reference to LEO's as Nazi's is revolting. May I suggest you do a little studying on who and what Nazi's really were. Not what people with an agenda claim they are but who they really were and what they did. Also your refusal to look at black on black crime and acknowledge it is a major problem in Chicago shows your own personal ignorance.

Lastly he wasn't being arrested at the time this happened he was being stopped for questioning. The crime, carrying a concealed weapon. Officers have the lawful right to stop someone and verify that the are legally allowed to conceal carry. He wasn't!

Do yourself and everyone in your community a favor and get educated. Stop spewing the typical ignorant garbage and do something to better your community.

Rational human being said: I'm not even gonna get into how biased this whole article is, but first of all, why did they stop him? Because to just roll up on someone and start a confrontartion when they're not commiting any crimes or even looking like they are is looking for a fight. But wait, why am I telling y'all this. Looking at the "Fresh COnversations, thers is already someone using the term "These Blacks". Yeah, y'all need to go join the Nazi parades, you're well on your way anyway. And the first one of you to drop a dearth threart in my mailbox is invited to come see me in the ring. Open a book and grow the fuck up.

Considering you didn't read the article, why are you condemning it? It blatantly states why they stopped him -- They SAW THE FIREARM. Open carry is not legal in Chicago. Please try wrapping your head around that and stop focusing on blindly supporting every person with your skin color.

Think like a "rational human being" instead.

Know what, I'm wasting my time talking to idiots who spend their time trying to shore up their biases by joining sites like this to bolster their preconviced notions. I seincerly hoope everyone one of you loses a friend to a cop and has a mind-altering crisis of faith in your bullshit. Meanwhile, I'm gonna go let your daughter chokes herself on this dick, understand that all of your racist fucks are well on your our way out. Out of OUR country, our of OUR gene pool and off of OUR planet.

Even watching the video should show you biased idiots something simple: They swarmed and surrounded him, attacking him from multiple directions and drew weapons well before he ever did, therefore he drew in SELF DEFENSE! But that doesn't matter to Nazis. Y'all will make any fucking excuse, including the already old, tired, and bullshit claim of Black on Black crime when it's COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. If you're one of those people, reconsider yourself because you're part of the problem and will be why this country goes to war with itself. If you have a problem with that, fact, solve yourself. And grow the fuck up.

Also, AZBIGDOG, WHy was he being arrested? WHat crime was he commiting? What was he suspected of? They made the choice to go after him and he tried to defend himself. And we all know what "thug" means in Nazi language, just call him a nigger like you want to so you can quit hiding behind your thin little veil.

I'm not even gonna get into how biased this whole article is, but first of all, why did they stop him? Because to just roll up on someone and start a confrontartion when they're not commiting any crimes or even looking like they are is looking for a fight. But wait, why am I telling y'all this. Looking at the "Fresh COnversations, thers is already someone using the term "These Blacks". Yeah, y'all need to go join the Nazi parades, you're well on your way anyway. And the first one of you to drop a dearth threart in my mailbox is invited to come see me in the ring. Open a book and grow the fuck up.