California Farmer Charged With 12 Felonies After Trying To Register His Guns

The farmer was charged with 12 felony weapons offenses after trying to comply with a new law.

Bakersfield, CA – A member of a prominent farming family was charged with a dozen weapons-related felonies, after he attempted to comply with California’s state-mandated gun registration laws.

According to court documents, Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann’s home was raided in April, after he attempted to register an AR-15 using the state of California’s website, KGET reported.

Kirschenmann is the CEO of Scott Kirschenmann Farms, Inc., which is one of the chief potato suppliers for Frito Lay.

The businessman was attempting to comply with California’s ever-tightening gun laws, one of which required gun owners to register “assault-style weapons” by the end of June.

He electronically submitted photographs of his AR-15 as part of the registration process, and soon became the focus of a California Department of Justice investigation.

According to court documents, the weapon was “illegally modified,” and served as grounds for the Department of Justice (DoJ) to raid Kirschenmann’s home.

It's not immediately clear what the illegal modification was, but the rifle was presumably not in compliance with the recent bans

Investigators seized two “silencers,” 230 rounds of ammunition, and 12 firearms in the search, KGET reported.

On May 17, the district attorney’s office charged Kirschenmann with a dozen felony weapons-related charges.

He was subsequently released on $150,000 bond.

According to retired Kern County Sheriff’s Office Commander Joe Pilkington, a court-recognized firearms expert, California’s rapidly-changing gun laws have created a significant amount of confusion with regards to what requirements are currently mandated, KGET reported.

"Just in the last few years, there have been lots of changes in gun laws," Commander Pilkington explained. "Making an effort, a good faith effort to comply with these really complicated laws, should count for something."

He suggested that anyone who was struggling to understand the current requirements should meet with a licensed firearms dealer.

"There is this self-registration application on the Department of Justice website, but it may be better to talk to an FFL,” Commander Pilkington said. “Someone who has a license, to talk through whatever these complications are.".

Comments (72)
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JBo
JBo

Surprise...California. Who woulda thunk it?

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

If his gun is illegally modified then the seizure is lawful.

Betts122
Betts122

Socialism is taking over California! It is no longer safe to live there as a conservative.

Rving
Rving

And they will keep changing them to continue to confuse the good guys with guns...California is toast!

DocRyder
DocRyder

So please point out the "illegal" modifications...

DocRyder
DocRyder

Sooner or later we will be forced to take back California. The way things are going, it will be sooner.

TruckerGuns
TruckerGuns

So now I feel so safe, now that the DOJ is going after prominent farmers who supply the potatoes for Frito Lay. And they sometimes wonder why MS-13 is out raping and slaughtering innocent teenage girls. I'm glad I left this stupid good for nothing God-foresaken state.

CJSpencer
CJSpencer

If you live in Kalifornia and have more than 2 functioning brain cells, GET OUT NOW!!!!

LmRoberts
LmRoberts

Please can anyone show me where in the second amendment it states "except for overreaching state laws". I'll wait...what can't find it? Because it's not there. But there is one very clear statement and that is "Shall Not Be Infringed". The second amendment wasn't put there for hunters and it did not mean that it only covered the guns of those times. It was put there to protect the citizens of this country from overreaching/tyrannical governments. Period. Full Stop. There were no exceptions listed. Do folks think that the very wise writers of those rights didn't realize that guns would change over time? Of course they did. Again, no exceptions were written in. It's time for us to stand up and remind that government who they work for and who puts them in power in the first place. They exempt themselves from the laws they burden us with. And we don't have a gun problem, we have a people problem and that is getting worse daily, is actually encouraged by some in government. We need to fix that before we start punishing law abiding responsible gun owners.

I'd also like to remind folks that if we did have a gun problem it would be a bloodbath in the streets considering the number of responsible gun holders in this country. That alone completely negates any arguments the gun grabbers have. I'd also like to remind folks that if we truly did have a gun problem, how do you explain the sheer number of gun owners who have never killed anyone, have never harmed anyone. Go after the criminals cause they don't follow laws, when they are arrested make sure you don't plea bargin them down and put them back on the freaking streets. How about they actually do the time that is mandated for their criminal acts involving a gun. We have enough laws on the books, enforce those. And lastly, how about letting the cops do their jobs.

DickSilk
DickSilk

The NRA should fully fund this guy's attorneys all the way to SCOTUS to uphold the 2nd Amendment.

Pack
Pack

I would never register, and this just justifies and shows why.

John.Brown
John.Brown

The first step to confiscation is registration. Hitler would be proud.

MarcWanger Maine USA
MarcWanger Maine USA

Most likely this man bought these guns over the years legally and did not modify them. He paid sales tax on them and the fact that he tried to register them shows, that he had every good intend to do the right thing. There should be a "grandfather" law, that if you own a firearm once legally, you can't be criminally charged for law changes, unless the State informed you in writing. How in the world can a hard working fellow keep up with all these new laws? How can someone can become a felon by just not doing anything?!

Browncoat
Browncoat

If you're looking for a reason why we have the Second Amendment... here you go.

knowahp
knowahp

Was he ever raided for employing Illegally modified-citizens to work his farms?

Vcanejr
Vcanejr

time to take are given RIGHTS BACK....

Bill d
Bill d

He should've said he was a border jumper and they would've thrown him a parade.

Sherb13
Sherb13

Can we just let California secede? They already infringe on our rights so they might as well make their own.

gfc1963
gfc1963

Thats a big 'if'. He does the right thing and he still gets wrong? But I guess the criminals will be doing the same eh?

John.Brown
John.Brown

We are definitely building the wall in the wrong place! California is a bigger threat to the rest of the country then Mexico is.

frazier
frazier

People in these western Leftist states should be determined to move to states that actually respect the 2nd. No gun registration in Missouri and we discourage Democrats from moving in !

TireIron
TireIron

Flash hiders. As I understand it, every firearm in CA must have a crowned muzzle.

61mouse
61mouse

Well guess the law abiding citzens need to think like criminals and NOT register their guns

BenPutnam
BenPutnam

Great job CA, keeping your citizens safe from law abiding farmers. I wonder how many criminals have registered their weapons? Do not comply with rules that violate your constitutional rights.

lowell2
lowell2

pretty sure even California acknowledges no expost facto laws. They can ban various types of guns, but if those guns were owned previously, they dont' get to term them illegal. Seems to me that if the farmer can show whatever "modifications" were done were done PRIOR to the law banning them was passed, he's got an unlawful arrest lawsuit.

AZBIGDOG
AZBIGDOG

Anyone here doesn't believe that kalifa is becoming a communist state needs to really look at cuba, russia, Nazi Germany has nothing over kalifa. There is no way a person could understand and comply with all the unconstitutional laws that the liberal maroons in this state have come up with to remove firearms from the citizens.

Stovall528
Stovall528

This is out of control. If they drop out if the union then all citizens there will be in jeperty if there lives.

r4fthrs
r4fthrs

"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." MLK (also spurious quotation attributed to Thomas Jefferson).

Un4givenone
Un4givenone

Common sense gun laws.

  1. Common Sense- is sound practical judgment concerning everyday matters, or a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge that is shared by ("common to") nearly all people. a. Perceive- become aware or conscious of (something); come to realize or understand. b. Understand- To know thoroughly by close contact or long experience with.
  2. Gun Laws- The Second Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791. It reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The US Constitution is the highest level of law in the United States. Article VI of the Constitution states the document and the laws of the United States which "shall be made in pursuance thereof..." are the "Supreme Law of the Land." The phrase, "shall be made in pursuance thereof" indicates the Constitution is the ultimate authority to which all other laws and treaties must conform. a. Lawyers and Politicains like to use the term "interperate" the law. Ok, so who would have the best interpertation of the law? Those that wrote the law or someone else years later after the popular meanings have changed?
    1. Thomas Jefferson, of Virginia: “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” — Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776 “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” — Jefferson`s “Commonplace Book,” 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
    2. George Mason, of Virginia: “[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually.”. . . I ask, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” — Virginias U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788 “That the People have a right to keep and bear Arms; that a well regulated Militia, composed of the Body of the People, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe Defence of a free state.” — Within Masons declaration of “the essential and unalienable Rights of the People,” — later adopted by the Virginia ratification convention, 1788
    3. Samuel Adams, of Massachusetts: “The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” — Massachusetts` U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788
    4. Richard Henry Lee, of Virginia:

      “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” — Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer, 1788
    5. James Madison, of Virginia: The Constitution preserves “the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. . . (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” — The Federalist, No. 46
    6. Noah Webster, of Pennsylvania: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power.” — An Examination of The Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787
    7. Alexander Hamilton, of New York: “[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights and those of their fellow citizens.” — The Federalist, No. 29
    8. Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts: “What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins.” — Debate, U.S. House of Representatives, August 17, 1789
    9. Tench Coxe, of Pennsylvania: “The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them.” — An American Citizen, Oct. 21, 1787 “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” — The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788 “As the military forces which must occasionally be raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article (of amendment) in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” — Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 So it is very clear that all other laws on guns are unconstitutional if your being honest with yourself. c. In the years that the Constitution was writen the following words meant-
      1. Well Regulated- The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment From: Brian T. Halonen halonen@csd.uwm.edu The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment: 1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations." 1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world." 1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial." 1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor." 1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding." 1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city." The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. In summory, unless you have knowledge of these weapons, meaning know them inside and out, have fired them, and understand the ballistics that come from them you can not have common sence to make laws on them. All laws that congress or the states make are unconstitutional. Lastly, not having a sporting use is not even an arguement. The reason behind the 2nd was not to hunt with but to wage war from invaders and to keep government in check as well as take the country back from an overbearing government that wishes to control everything. Just like the Democrats are trying to do.
Jaden52
Jaden52

It's asinine. Like was said, he's probably bought them over the years and hasn't modified them at all.

I bought my first AR15 in 1999 before the first california assault rifle ban. I haven't modified it at all.

I would be committing a felony if I hadn't had my dad take it to Arizona because it doesn't have a bullet button and I have pre ban 40 round mags for it.

I'm moving out of this stupid fu*ked up state hoping that people wise up and vote to split the state into 3 states so Socal won't have to follow the same laws of jacked up liberal north cali and los angeles.\

LmRoberts
LmRoberts

Excellent post @Un4givenone

Oaf
Oaf

You're just a special kind of stupid, aren't you!

PavePusher
PavePusher

The Irony that this very page is in support of the people who are gleefully violating your Rights goes right over your idiot heads, doesn't it....

madshark
madshark

That is exactly why you never register shit. Fuck the government.

-sock-
-sock-

No gun laws are lawful...The Second Amendment is Supreme.

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

Sure they are, if amendments arE passed.. It's a living document.

BruthaV
BruthaV

Says you, and the leftist Justices on the SCOTUS. I disagree, and agree with Scalia, Alito, Rehnquist, et al. The "living" part of the Constitution is the amendment process -- not what Justices think/want the Constitution (or codified and/or Common Law) to say/mean.

PTripp
PTripp

The safest way to comply with California's infringement on your Constitutional Rights is to leave the state. You'll find more jobs, lower taxes, less homeless, less illegal aliens, and that's just the teaser ...

Triggered
Triggered

Hold your breath until I register a gun.

cfc
cfc

It's a racist law. And Hetero-phobic as well. Mostly straight caucasian males will attempt to comply with this law thus unfairly targeting this group. Also it is a violation of the 2nd and 5th amendments. Of course this is CA and the politicians see a clear path to pure dictatorship and self enrichment. The Democratic party points straight to Venezuela as a metric they are trying to achieve. Abject poverty and military rule with zero liberty. This is the Democratic dream. Oh and an ethnostate run by La Raza. Funny how much heroine is flowing through the state and not one big drug bust? Not a one. But farmers... oh they are state enemies for attempted compliance. It's going to get ugly.

PavePusher
PavePusher

Dear Law Enforcement Personnel,

Why are you enforcing these Fascist, fucktarded laws? Where is your moral courage, to stand up and say "No."?

EODK9Trainer
EODK9Trainer

230 rounds? Damn. I'd be charged with capital felonies if they knew how many I had. Oh wait, no I won't as I'm not in the republic of Socialist Ca.

Grewvin
Grewvin

LSJ
LSJ

230 rounds? That sound like my standard load out for the car. Gun owners need to flee Commiefornia before the party restricts their travel and builds their own wall to keep their subjects from fleeing to the free states.

Det_John_Kimble
Det_John_Kimble

Gee I can see how everyone else will be lining up to submit their gun photos. Including the Bloods and Crips, and MS13.

ACRScout
ACRScout

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 9, paragraph 3, "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

California changes its laws to ensnare people like him, making any law enacted after he obtained these rifles, in fact an "ex post facto" law.

JamesBarnes
JamesBarnes

All Commiefornia gun laws are treason....Americans there should be stringing up some traitors.....

Sixpacksack
Sixpacksack

If only that fire spread a little quicker we wouldn’t have to deal with commyfornia anymore

troytown
troytown

How about just leaving California & take your business with you?