California Blocked 62,000 People From Legally Buying Ammo, Including Cops

California's new gun laws have unintended consequences, including stopping off-duty cops and hunters from buying ammo.

Sacramento, CA – The implementation of California’s new gun laws hasn’t gone smoothly and more than 62,000 residents have been denied the ability to legally purchase ammunition since July 1.

Under the new guns laws, Californian’s are required to pass an in-store background check, at the time of purchase, to buy ammunition, the Sacramento Bee reported.

Vendors must run the purchaser’s name through California Department of Justice database to confirm if they have legally registered a weapon with the state.

California has required handguns to be registered since the 1990s, and shotguns and rifles had to be registered starting in 2014, the Sacramento Bee reported.

In order to pass the background check to buy ammunition, a gun owner must have a registered weapon in the state’s database, identification that matches the address in the database, and pay $1 for the background check process.

However, if a legal gun owner has moved since they purchased their weapon, the background check will be kicked back and the transaction denied because the address on their current driver’s license doesn’t match the address from when their information was put into the gun registry, the Sacramento Bee reported.

People who don’t own guns or haven’t registered their weapons in the state registry can pay $19 under the new law, and go through a more extensive background check that takes multiple days to get approval to purchase ammunition.

Or they can register their weapon online in the database and get approved quickly once their information has been accepted into the system.

The California Department of Justice released the background check rejection numbers in a response to a lawsuit filed by the California Rifle & Pistol Association that seeks to overturn the new gun laws, according to the Sacramento Bee.

The court filing said that 18 percent of $1 background checks for ammunition purchases have been rejected since the laws went into effect in July.

It said that 19,000 rejected ammunition buyers weren’t in the database at all, mostly because the Department of Justice was behind in updating and maintaining the data, the Sacramento Bee reported.

The court filing also said that 22,000 rejected ammunition buyers had addresses that didn’t match what was listed for them in the gun registry, and that many of that number had moved since their data was entered.

The Department of Justice filing also said that almost 8,000 ammunition buyers were rejected because their names on their identification didn’t match what was in the registry, the Sacramento Bee reported.

Only 101 of the stopped ammunition purchases, out of 345,547 rejections, prevented “prohibited persons” who can’t legally buy or possess ammunition from making a transaction.

Sutter County Sheriff’s Deputy Zachary Berg was one of the 22,000 people whose address didn’t match what was in the state’s system, the Sacramento Bee reported.

Deputy Berg was shut down by the background check database when he tried to buy shotgun shells for a duck hunting trip in November.

“It’s a little ironic the fact I’m a deputy that I can’t buy ammunition,” the deputy said. “But at the same time, anybody else who’s legally allowed to, they shouldn’t be denied based on address [errors]. ... It’s just crazy.”

Retired California Highway Patrol officer and Vietnam veteran Dan Logan registered his shotgun online as the state required but was still rejected when he went to buy a box of shells in Folsom in October, the Sacramento Bee reported.

Logan said he was especially frustrated because the new gun-control laws also prohibited Californians from going out of state to buy ammunition.

“If I go to Nevada and buy ammunition there, I can go to jail,” he explained to the Sacramento Bee.

Gun-rights advocates have complained that the state is using the new background check database as a de facto gun registry.

Fans of the new gun control laws think that aspect of the database is a good thing.

Ari Freilich, an attorney with the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, told the Sacramento Bee that the database would help with the enforcement of “red flag” laws designed to remove weapons from the possession of citizens who might harm themselves or others.

“Because of this DOJ database, [it] allows law enforcement to know that that person has arms, to know what kind of arms they have and to know where they reside, so they can ensure that the people who have been subject to threats are safe and that guns are removed from that dangerous situation,” Freilich said.

Proponents of the legislation that caused the changes to the system have referred to the almost 350,000 faultily-rejected ammunition purchases as a “technical issue” and a minor inconvenience to gun owners, the Sacramento Bee reported.

“We can easily overcome this technical issue,” said Kevin de León, a former state senator who pushed for the new gun laws and is now running for Los Angeles City Council. “To the NRA and others who don’t believe that we should keep our communities safe from gunfire, I would say stop the hyperbole over a technical issue that’s easily solvable and be part of the solution to reduce dramatically the numbers of needless killings that happen in our communities every single day.”

The implementation of the new background checks for ammunition also coincided with state’s new ban on lead hunting ammunition, and ruined hunting season for many of the state’s enthusiasts, the Sacramento Bee reported.

First, hunters struggled to find stores that had a stock of non-toxic shotgun shells and rifle rounds.

But then, after they found it, many of them were rejected by the state’s new faulty background check process, the Sacramento Bee reported.

The unintended consequence was that almost 30,000 fewer people bought hunting licenses in California in 2019 at the same time the state is running a campaign to boost hunting license sales.

That’s a huge problem because the state’s Department of Fish and Wildlife’s budget is funded by hunting and fishing license sales, as well as taxes on their firearms and gear, the Sacramento Bee reported.

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s office has defended the background check problems and said the rate of faulty rejections would decline “as familiarity with the system among ammunition vendors and consumers increases.”

Comments (115)
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Cop Watch
Cop Watch

the ONLY real reason to have this ridicules background check is to see who is buying ammo and have a list of where they live so when it is time to remove the 2nd amendment the government will have a LIST!

Hi_estComnDenomn
Hi_estComnDenomn

If you make sure your information is updated, this isn't an issue at all. No one prevented them from buying ammo but themselves.

reverett456117502
reverett456117502

Unfortunately, the Governor and State Legislature have California just about ready to fall into a pit they can't get out of by the looks of things! It's every week, another "unintelligent" decision is made by one of them against the law-abiding people. Of course, if you are here illegally and violate every law known to mankind, you're ok!

Burgers Allday
Burgers Allday

#wellregulated

Cduncanf
Cduncanf

Only 101 of the stopped ammunition purchases, out of 345,547 rejections, prevented “prohibited persons”

What else needs to be said? That is .003% of all rejections. Criminals don’t care about laws.

DR226
DR226

Stupid narrow minded liberal politicians never look at the whole picture.These laws were enacted IMO for two reasons, 1. To identify every gun owner and know exactly how many and what guns are owed. This is simply a way to account for every firearm in that home if confiscation ever occurs. 2. To keep gangs and others who are in possession of an illegal firearm from getting the ammo needed for these illegal guns. They can't get it that ammo will be obtained illegally just like the guns. And at the same time costing the state maybe millions in lost revenue. Taxes on everything like ammo, hunting licenses and permits, gear, gas taxes and a lot more lost. I hope Californians wake up.

Popcop.M1
Popcop.M1

These idiots are severally underestimating the American people. Looks like civil war on the horizon.

TopDocBo
TopDocBo

My question and it may be I'm not seeing it, how do they know you go to another state and buy ammo? Are other states sharing this information? Do the states that border this insane state have an agreement with them? I can see the equally insane if not there yet going that direction, Oregon but Nevada?

Trefflek
Trefflek

Sounds like it’s time to buy a reloader if you like in liberalville CA.

DanoRanger
DanoRanger

Another ignorant and completely stupid decision by that state. Thank God I do not live there, I feel so bad for the people of that state...

JBoH
JBoH

“To the NRA and others who don’t believe that we should keep our communities safe from gunfire..."

Stupidest statement of the day.

186
186

Every day, I thank god I don't live in California

Excalibr4
Excalibr4

I actually agree with the law, the way it was designed. Here in Illinois, you have to have a valid FOID card. In California a "certificate" is required, along with a huge laundry list of eligibility test they must pass, to purchase a gun. The "spirit of the law", is to prevent someone, who doesn't legally own a gun, to purchase ammo. Here in IL they issue the FOID card, which encompasses all the eligibility criterion in one easy to verify card. So if you have an eligible FOID card (Firearm Owner Identification), the sale of ammo is easy. California, for all their tech prowess, is digital nightmare with the Three Stooges in charge. 350,000 denials, when only 101 were valid denials, is beyond incompetent.

flybynight
flybynight

Kind of like a car that you're not allowed to buy gasoline for.

Crescentstar69
Crescentstar69

You said unintended consequences. I believe they were completely intended. Just another registration and back door gun control scheme.

ronsboys1
ronsboys1

The only this does is keep non violent law abiding citizens from getting guns and ammo. Criminals will always have access to guns and ammo. All laws do is penalize offenders. It dies nothing to keep criminals from committing criminal acts.

floridacop
floridacop

my question is this: If you are a hunter from out of state and you plan on a hunting trip in this fine state, what happens if you need ammo due to an issue with the ammo you have? You don't live there so now you trip is over.

michelle1964
michelle1964

The sad thing about it is that gang bangers won't go to the store to get ammo. There's enough ammo on the streets already to start a war. So this law is only hurting law abiding people.

bob95648
bob95648

How many of the 101 prohibited people who deliberately broke the law by trying to purchase ammunition are they prosecuting? Zero. That's because this law is not and never has been about keeping guns and ammunition out of the hands of criminals.

wmc50
wmc50

@Crescentstar69 " I believe they were completely intended." Yep. This entire scheme is completely intended to frustrate and obfuscate everything about owning, buying or supplying anything to do with firearms, hunting or ammunition. Backdoor gun control.

61mouse
61mouse

How about catching the ILLEGAL o es trying to buy ammo. ???

PunkinPye
PunkinPye

Try using your gun without ammo.

JohnnyLaw181
JohnnyLaw181

"California's new gun laws have unintended consequences, ..." Unintended my azz. It's been part of the plan all along.

Gene Ralno
Gene Ralno

California nuts, felons, terrorists and illegal aliens are dancing in the streets. Becerra occupies big chunks of law enforcement resources hamstrung with electronic tracking of peaceable, lawful citizens. Fewer and fewer officers will be available to investigate, arrest and testify against criminals. And fewer will be available to respond to crimes in progress. Practice ranges soon will be closing their doors. Those who are stuck in California will go underground for their needs.

A tsunami of working citizens and small businesses who now hate and fear their government are relocating to states that aren't ruled by imperious socialists. Millions now see California's top officials were elected by homeless nuts dependent on them for survival. And as California's government marches toward deeper and deeper bankruptcy, it strips its citizens of any reasonable form of self defense.

Simultaneously, we’re also witnessing a sea change in the sanctuary movement. I've always understood that these partisan laws could be defeated by simply denying assistance to federal or state law enforcement. Clearly, federal and state resources alone are woefully inadequate to enforce such things as red flag or magazine violations. Clearly too, they could not begin to undertake such an effort without local law enforcement assistance.

If deputizing thousands in Culpeper County, Virginia, to physically resist federal and state law enforcement, is representative of the whole movement, it’s a soft rebellion against one issue which could rapidly expand. I'd estimate that almost 70 percent of the counties in the U.S. will endorse 2nd Amendment Sanctuary principles. If that materializes, federal and state enforcement initially would avoid the peaceful counties and concentrate on the 63 counties where the vast majority of criminal activity occurs.

And if they wiped out most of the gang members, mobs and serious felons, the democrats might just shut up about this issue. Or they might be emboldened to go after the peaceable, lawful counties that have virtually no murders and very little crime. Armed confrontations between local law enforcement could easily flare and if new deputies are thrown into the mix, I'd put my money on the local forces even if half are untrained amateurs.

DelawareDi
DelawareDi

Let's hope California breaks off and slides into the sea before this gets any crazier!

BigPapaFrosty
BigPapaFrosty

Another unless law to ban people from buying ammo! As most people know you can get ammo anywhere at anytime

NMck57
NMck57

I've lived in this Great state of California off and on for 62 years. We have some good Governors and some bad but I can not remember a time, Other than Brown x's 2 that we have had worse leadership. Gavin Newson is by far the worst and the most liberal POS that this State has had. His lil Minion, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra is just as stupid and liberal. When are these idiots going to realize guns are not the problem. Ammunition is not the problem and lack of gun laws and restrictions is not the problem. It the WEAK politicians and their liberal views that is the problem. The people who are killing innocent people don't care if this or that gun is illegal to possess. These people are going to get guns, ammunition or what ever they need to commit their crimes. In May 2019 in Japan a man using two long-blade knives stabbed 17 schoolgirls and two adults at a bus stop. You don't need a AR-15 to kill or injure multiple people.

BAD-LIEUTENANT
BAD-LIEUTENANT

SO THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO BUY AMMO, YET CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE STREETS AND VICTIMIZE LAWFUL CITIZENS. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT!!

Fubar66
Fubar66

LMAO!!! You get what you vote for!

tuggingalong
tuggingalong

Our 2nd Amendment rights are being violated and they’re requiring us to jump through hoops with pre-registration and valid identification with matching addresses to purchase ammo yet they want to give the right to vote to illegal aliens who break our federal laws by illegally entering our nation? And how dare we expect a voter to prove it’s the actual registered voter by asking for an ID. That’s racism according to the retarded politicians. This is the same state that has districts that receive more votes for dems than there are registered voters but how dare we suggest there is corruption. The US federal government had better not hand that state a penny to bail them out of anything. They can break off into the ocean for all I care. I apologize to those of you in CA who aren’t stupid and retarded.

I spoke to a friend who owns rental property and he was concerned about a particular renter than could end up not paying their rent and becoming a “squatter”. He called an attorney who told him, “Squatters don’t have any legal rights. They’re squatters. This isn’t California”

whatalways3parts1
whatalways3parts1

Backwards into the Future, and awwwaaaaay, yay !! NOT!

Brasov04cluj
Brasov04cluj

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😃 To BLAZES with the article..... i am drooling over the Lady in the Blue dress. I think she stole my pillows. 🤤🤤🤤

Anomie88
Anomie88

If the state government's rationale is to prevent gun violence, than the same rationale should be applied to vehicles: get a permit to buy gas or diesel. People who are DUI are purposely using a tool (like a gun) to endanger others. Having a driver's license is not a Right in this country; keeping and bearing arms is. Using "back door" tactics to limit or take away that right is a pathetic infringement. It needs to stop before copy-cat states and cities take part.

ramrodd
ramrodd

Marxists who infect our government plus the media prostitutes who protect them will gleefully lie, falsify, fabricate, slander, libel, deceive, delude, bribe, and treasonably betray the free citizens of the United States into becoming an unarmed population. Unarmed populations have been treated as slaves and chattel since the dawn of history. Only dictators, tyrants, despots, totalitarians, and those who want to control and ultimately to enslave you support gun control. No matter what any politician or hard-left mainstream media tells you concerning the statist utopian fantasy of safety and security through further gun control: They are lying. If their lips are moving, they are lying about gun control. These despots truly hate America.. These tyrants hate freedom, liberty, personal responsibility, and private property. But the reality is that our citizens’ ownership of firearms serves as a concrete deterrent against despotism. They are demanding to hold the absolute power of life and death over you and your family. Ask the six million J ews, and the other five million murdered martyrs who perished in the N azi death camps, how being disarmed by a powerful tyranny ended any chances of fighting back. Ask the murdered martyrs of the Warsaw Ghetto about gun control. Their single agenda is to control you after you are disarmed. When the people who want to control you hold the absolute power of life and death over your family, you have been enslaved. American Thinker

Hunter Riley
Hunter Riley

Oh no... isn't it RACIST in CRAPifornia to require an ID, oh wait that's only if you plan on voting or taking welfare or getting a drivers license....LIBERALS BEING IGNORANT ONCE AGAIN..NO I'M NOT SHOCKED

ButterYourBread
ButterYourBread

Can California just break off and float away already...You Officers come on east, we got room for ya

Gap Filler
Gap Filler

Papers, we must see your papers please

Chiefton
Chiefton

We either start filing massive lawsuits against these criminal politicians for violation of civil and constitutional rights or we will have a civil war. It is that simple. Let their time be tied up with suits from every direction, in every city and state and every different court until they come in line. If that does not work then our alternatives are dwindled.