BREAKING: Pima Co. Deputy Dragged, Then Shot, Gets Up And Takes Out Gunman

well, my name isn't Booger, but I think your question is a good one, so I will respond. I think that Blue Lives Matter, so some of my posts are merely to offer thoughts and prayers to an officer killed or hurt in the line of duty. However, in many cases police officers are not smart about safety of themselves, or of innocent civilians. In fact, I think that a lot of the posts on this board are calculated to encourage officers to not think realistically about their safety and the safety of innocent civilians. Sometimes, I think this site should be called Let's Hero Worship Cops or White Policemen Can Do No Wrong. So, in response, some of my posts are designed to criticize police conduct that is stupid, especially when it makes situations more dangerous than they need to be. I think police officers (especially white male ones) are used to having their egos stroked, so they don't always take criticism very well, but, ultimately, I think it is helpful for them to see it -- especially the younger readers who are generally a bit more impressionable. Blue Lives certainly do Matter, but it is important to apply that maxim in a thoughtful way and not use it as an excuse to be "as stoopid as I wanna be."

Burgers Allday said: I read the thing. His buddy stuck his hand in a car door frame while trying to make a citizen's arrest and got his ring and finger squished when the driver drove away. Deeply stupid on many levels. KHarmon believes his buddy's outlandish account. I don't and you shouldn't either.

If I can't believe him, how am I suppose to believe you? As someone who has been in some very scary and dangerous situations I can tell you that people will do some crazy shit in attempts to hurt or get away from a police officer. So, what I'm telling you, is that I believe KHarmon's story more than I do your opinion as to what happened.

I'm curious Booger, what is your goal posting comments on this site? What do you hope to accomplish?

I read the thing. His buddy stuck his hand in a car door frame while trying to make a citizen's arrest and got his ring and finger squished when the driver drove away. Deeply stupid on many levels. KHarmon believes his buddy's outlandish account. I don't and you shouldn't either.

@Burgers Allday - nope, you still didn't read it with any degree of comprehension. This is what it says " I have a good friend that was trying to stop shop lifting suspects from leaving a parking lot one day and the driver actually grabbed his arm and pulled him into the door" See, it says he was grabbed and pulled into the door. Now, policing is a dangerous job and not for those who are a little squeamish, like yourself. Cops get hurt arresting the bad guys. You can mitigate some of those injuries through training but there is no way to eliminate them completely. The thing you always fail to take into consideration is the fact most of these events take place very quickly and the officer needs to make a decision on what to do within a microsecond. They don't have the luxury of watching a video and playing the Monday morning QB. Only attorneys and minority reverends can do that from the safety of their officer or home.

@LEO0301: I read it. His buddy put his hand in a car door frame and his finger got slammed. I am pretty skeptical about the part about the buddy getting dragged because when people do stupid things they tend to embellish or confabulate, but regardless, the lesson that LEO's should take from KHarmon's story is this: play stupid games, win stupid prizes and don't put your hand in places where people can slam doors or windows upon it. When police officers do that it ends up costing taxpayers money and that is a bad thing that police officers need to understand, even if it makes them feel a bit bad.

Burgers Allday said: @KHarmon: sounds like your friend was pretty reckless. I hope you didn't encourage him to repeat those shenanigans.

@Burgers Allday - I can only assume, once again, that you failed to read @KHarmon comment to you with any degree of comprehension. There is no other explanation other than the distinct possibility you are trolling this site for your own amusement. Which one is it, Burger?

@KHarmon: sounds like your friend was pretty reckless. I hope you didn't encourage him to repeat those shenanigans.

Burgers Allday, we don't know all the circumstances yet. I have a good friend that was trying to stop shop lifting suspects from leaving a parking lot one day and the driver actually grabbed his arm and pulled him into the door. As he was trying to get out the door slammed on his left hand and his wedding ring prevented him from pulling his hand free. After being dragged nearly 200 feet he was able to free himself. His wedding ring was still wedged in the door when a neighboring agency got the vehicle stopped after a pursuit.

Get well soon brother. Way to stay in the fight. We must not give in.

Burgers Allday said: He shouldn't have held onto the vehicle -- bad tactics.

@Burgers Allday, you should hold onto the vehicle exhaust pipe with your mouth all day. That would make things a whole lot better. After all, trolling seems to be the only thing you know how to do.