Are Blue Line Flags an Abomination?

Many people want to buy blue line flags, but people are questioning the meaning of the blue line flags and what they represent.

Many people want to buy blue line flags, but people are questioning the meaning of the blue line flags and what they represent. This may seem odd if you don't know the back-story, but allow me to explain.

We've been having people tell us, the Blue Lives Matter team, for a while now that we should be selling American Thin Blue Line flags. That way more people can openly show their support for law enforcement.

We're a group of police officers, not flag makers, so we never really did much with these suggestions besides thank people for their support. Then our official Blue Lives Matter shirt partner, Warrior 12, told us that they had ultra-high-quality American blue line flags for sale.

Thin Blue Line FlagFrom Warrior 12

When they put this up, it sure got a lot of attention, but also from people who weren't too happy with it. One user pretty much summed up most of the comments: "I will always support law enforcement but this is a desecration of the American Flag." This resulted in quite the internal discussion among those of us at Blue Lives Matter. People seemed split between the two groups.

On one hand, the American Thin Blue Line flag proponents said that it's not an desecration of the American flag, because it's a completely different flag. It's a flag specifically to represent support for American law enforcement. Most people seem to agree, as these flags are becoming more popular than ever and people love flying them side-by-side with American flags.

The other group says that it's clearly based off of the American flag, because it's supposed to represent American law enforcement. The American flag should not be altered in appearance; To do so is a violation of US Flag code which states: The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars, white in a blue field. To them, the American thin blue line flag is an abomination.

We thought that the critics might have a point, and we quickly took down the Facebook post promoting the deal. Unfortunately, by taking the post down so quickly, we didn't actually get to see how most of our supporters actually felt about the issue.

We'd like to hear what you think about this issue. Should Blue Lives Matter forgo any support for the American Thin Blue Line flags? We want to hear from you. Please let us know what you think in the comments.

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61mouse
61mouse

Alot of the shirts with names on are usually selling to give proceeds to the families

JLCLong
JLCLong

Our family is Law Enforcement and Military, through and through, as well a Gold Star Family, having lost 2 soldiers within 18 months, recently. Blues lives have always mattered and so does the reverence, respect and beauty of Old Glory. The American flag means many things to many people. Our family has always been repulsed by the poorly altered blue line flag and know it is a desecration. We also feel whoever created the blue line flag invested not a drop of time to create a unique, individual image but manipulated an already existing image. Also it is not trademarked and no care is given to how the image it's uses or who manufactures it so, China can / could produce the flag.

There is a flag that was uniquely created to represent ALL First Responders and Community Servants and it is the HONOR and SACRIFICE flag. The non-profit organization ceremonially presents personalized flags to the Fallen Hero Families. Here is a video explaining the HONOR and SACRIFICE flag that is a much preferred alternative:

You will find much more time and thought went into creating a flag to uniquely represent fallen Law Enforcement, while keep in the American flag honored, sacred and intact.

Our public & national mission of Honor will never waver, to those public servants who stand in the gap preserving the rule of law and our personal safety, they will never be forgotten. The Honor and Sacrifice Flag was first unveiled on the 15th Anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, this flag was developed specifically to honor the sacrifices of Fallen First Responder men & women, of America.

From their website HONORandSACRIFICE.org they share the Flag Symbolism:

"The Blue Field" symbolizes nationally the law enforcement community.

"The Purple Field" respectfully signifies mourning for a loss in the firefighter community.

"The White Field" recognizes the purity of heart within each individual who serves and protects and is willing to face each day’s challenges regardless of risk.

"The Black Star" represents those who wear the distinctive badge including sheriff and marshal services.

"The Red Maltese Cross" recognizes all who have fallen in the emergency response communities.

"The Gold Shield" recognizes all law enforcement and other public safety representatives who wear the shield, including EMT and have made the ultimate sacrifice in the line of duty. Gold reflects the value of the life given.

"The Folded Flag" signifies the final tribute to an individual life that a family has lost for the sake of others.

"The Flame" is an eternal reminder of the spirit that has departed this life yet burns on in the memory of all who knew and loved the fallen hero.

RedBruh1
RedBruh1

The Thin Red Line and Thin Blue Line flags violates the US Flag Code. Don't get butthurt because I'm telling the truth.

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

If you wish to show support for Blue Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, or firefighters, that's cool. Do so by saying that you support either one of those groups. But what gets me is that Blue Lives Matter supporters feel the need to memorialize the LEOs names on t shirts and make profit out of it and politicalize it. If you put the names of deceased cops or African-Americans on t shirts, in my opinion, you're sick in the head. There's other ways to memorialize the dead.

Back-The-Blue Carrie
Back-The-Blue Carrie

References in the US flag code Title 4 chapter 1 paragraph 3 that you are all quoting is that it ONLY applies to the District of Columbia.

Ruspert
Ruspert

The flag of the United States of America should be treated with respect and dignity. There is no penalty for the desecration or the flag. Those that are a part of defiling the flag by altering the colors and/or displaying an altered flags can be justly reviled for their lack of respect. The fact that law enforcement personnel would be a part of this conduct makes the offense much more hurtful to those that have respect for the flag. I am a veteran of three wars.