2 Students Disciplined For Going To Gun Range Outside Of School Hours

Two students have been disciplined after pictures of them at the gun range came out.

Lacey Township, NJ - An attorney from a New Jersey gun organization association announced that a lawsuit may be pending after a school disciplined two students for going to a gun range outside of school hours.

Patch.com reported that attorney Daniel Schmutter, with the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, sent a letter to Lacey Township School District officials after two students posted pictures on Snapchat showing them at a gun range.

There was no threatening context to the pictures or anything that would otherwise cause alarm.

In the letter, Schmutter stated that suspending the two students for posting photos off school grounds and unrelated to school activities was a "very serious violation" of the their rights.

Schmutter said the students were both "straight-A" students, according to Patch.com. He also said that the students had attempted to return to school but were not allowed to go to classes.

The claims are that there is a school district policy which prohibits firearm possession by students on or off school grounds.

"These are top-quality kids," Schumuter said. "It's astonishing what they have done to these kids."

According to Patch.com, the Lacey Township school district follows the Safe Schools Initiative, the Zero Tolerance for Guns Act and also has its own zero-tolerance policy for any students who have weapons in their possession, on or off school grounds.

Students could be subject to a long-term suspension for up to one-year, according to Schmutter.

Anthony Muro posted the claim of the two students being suspended at 6:23 p.m. March 13 on the Lacey Township Chatter public Facebook group.

“INFO NEEDED: it is my understanding that two students at Lacey Township High School were placed on 5 days of detention for posting pictures on social media of firearms with the caption of "fun day at the range". If anyone has any more information regarding the validity or accuracy of this story, please let me know. I am currently under the impression that these kids were punished because someone was offended,” Muro posted.

Blue Lives Matter contacted Lacey Township High School and read Muro's post to Principal Gregory Brandis.

The principal said that Muro’s post was not accurate; however, he said he would not elaborate further and say what exactly was inaccurate because the matter involved high school students.

Patch.com reported that Superintendent Craig Wigley said the social media reports were not true, but would not comment on student matters.

NJ.com also tried to get more information on the story and was also shot down by the school district.

Frank Horvath posted on the Lacey Township page and said he spoke to the superintendent, and that the superintendent would not confirm or deny the story.

“He did state that since the Parkland shooting, they have received many requests to look into social media posts, some that seemed valid, and some that seemed to prove not too, including bringing up posts from as far back as November,” Horvath posted. “I don't know why, but something tells me that he is getting pressured by others in the board or outside influences to ‘make a statement’ about ‘zero tolerance of guns.’”

A student responded on the page and said the rumor was true, and that his classmates had been disciplined.

“To those questioning the validity of this situation, this is 100% true, my two class mates posted photos/videos of them at a shooting range, and got in trouble because of it,” John Carr posted.

Jack Pyle, a trustee for the Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners, said in an email to Blue Lives Matter that his organization has received reports that students at the school district have been threatened over other gun-related issues.

Pyle said that parents have said their sons have been threatened with suspension, disciplinary action or detentions for similar photos posted on social media and for having NRA logos or similar images on their personal vehicles.

Comments (44)
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Skipper
Skipper

Where is the ACLJ in all of this? It should be right up their alley.

Datrebor
Datrebor

How in the world can this school even think about violating these students 2nd Amendment Rights? When they are off school grounds the school should not be able to tell them how to live their lives. That is up to the parents, period.

lmr111702
lmr111702

You cannot tell these students what they cannot do off of school grounds and on their own time. There are some SERIOUS civil rights violations going on here, AND these boys have a RIGHT to their education too, so someone is in deep shit for this one. i hope the parents sue the living daylights out of that school district, the superintendent, and the school board. Enough is enough!

Steve1
Steve1

Sue the hell out of the school!!!!!!!

bronx163
bronx163

First school is for reading writting and arithmatic.
It is not a re-education camp for shitbag liberals.

Second these kids are American citizens and have the right to do what ever they want under the law and the constitution.

3thd school has nonauthority what a child or parent does off school grounds. This is not nazi germany or russia and or china.

Last this school and township should be sued for civil rights violations.
They attacked American citizens for exercising their right to bear arms.
They violated first amendment right.
They violated their privacy.
And character assassination and malice.
School labels them a threat for exercising their right to bear arms and enjoying recreational shooting.
Sue the balls off the school and township and administrators who suspended these kids.

JBo
JBo

The reason the school district/superintendent won't comment, confirm or deny, is because the students are on super double secret probation.

wispark43
wispark43

You should be able to sue the people in charge PERSONALY for this kind of behavior.

angryAmerican
angryAmerican

Lawsuit! SOOOOO many violations that the school district and superintendent will answer to! Go get them kids!

LifesTooShort
LifesTooShort

Typical. Our schools have become so "Liberal" Conservatives no longer have rights. What about Parents that have taught their kids weapon safety. In the South, our kids are taught to respect weapons! Looks like parents of these kids have done the same thing.
I find this action very sad. We have lost so many rights & made to be ashamed because of what we believe.

Hillbilly_B
Hillbilly_B

Tell me schools don't have an agenda....

RunCop
RunCop

Liberal pukes!

RunCop
RunCop

Liberal pukes!

Red.
Red.

One must be wary of liberals with violent fantasies. The fellow in the picture is holding what seems to be a pellet rifle and is holding it like they do in the Olympics and in collegant sports, that qualify for scholarships.

JeffDeWitt
JeffDeWitt

If this story is true (and considering it's New Jersey I suspect it is), there should be some kind of documentation that the kids were being suspended and why. The school can't make that public, and I understand why, but the kids and their parents certainly can, and should1

spfund1
spfund1

This is another rash action taken by school officials, who buy there actions demonstrate their respective lack of knowledge of the Constitution. The students to the best of my knowledge have not had issues with school staff, fellow students or to expand it further "threatened anyone". The mere fact of an individual legally possessing and use of firearms is not a crime or even a behavior warranting action. If on the other hand there was a report or investigation concering the student's behavior, that included threats, then thiis should be brought to the attention of the Law Enforcement Agency having jurisdiction over the incident in question and abide by their findings, period. They have overstepped and in the long run it will be admiistrations like these would will find themselves with sore toes and the taxpayers footing the bill for these depolorable actions.

sanewhitemale
sanewhitemale

The picture of this fellow shooting a pellet gun is a stock image used as header, because god knows you're not reading any articles without pictures. You can also count on the fact that they chose a picture of a pellet gun to downplay the fact that these kids were shooting real guns. If the author has a valid argument, they shouldn't need to use manipulative imagery. This should make every reader suspicious of the author and their intent. Is their intent to report a thoughtful, unbiased story? Or is it to enrage people who are worried about losing their gun rights, thereby getting clicks and generating ad revenue?

What you really need to be wary of is your own fantasies and delusions. Please think more critically.

SpottedGiving
SpottedGiving

sanewhitemale. Thank goodness they used a "pellet gun " "stock image " and not the real persons. Of course they used a "stock image" covered under the Creative Commons act of 1951. Most people are not going to scrutinize a picture because they know in reporting that "stock images" are common for privacy reasons. If you don't agree with this page and its content can you please go troll somewhere else. I will never understand "pot stirrers" that have to find something wrong in everything. Take a break from negativity and find something good in everything you do today. Namaste'

Walt 324
Walt 324

The Liberal Anti-Gun and zero tolerance for weapons at schools is out of control in this case.
WE HAVE A NATION WIDE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE IN AMERICA. Guns don’t kill, insane people with guns do. It’s everyones responsibility to help with this problem.

Katarina
Katarina

Just shows how much government over-reach is already in our culture. They are trying to make us hystarical over 17 lives lost in a school shooting a month ago. What are they doing to stop the 10 deaths every single day due to texting and driving? They don't care about lives. They want us to hand over our guns and try to make us feel guilty if we don't. Not one piece of legislation has been proposed or passed that would have ever, or will ever save lives. It is all about limiting our access to guns.

CaptGene
CaptGene

This story is just across the state line and near your New York headquarters. What happened to things like DUE PROCESS, like FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION and like THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS? It is time to file suit based on Constitutional violations. Next, parents need to pull their kids out of the government indoctrination centers and [A] Send them to parochial school(s) if they can afford them, [B] Send them to a good charter school, or [C] Home school them. The ONLY thing school districts understand is money. On average every child in public school is worth $10,000 to that school district. Pull 1 kid - they lose $10,000 a year. Pull 10 kids - $100,000 a year. Pull 100 kids - they kiss a cool $1,000,000 a year. To parents everywhere, GET YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF THESE CESSPOOLS OF COMMUNIST INDOCTRINATION!

OTAP
OTAP

Indeed. With the position of the buttstock and lack of weak hand support, I would speculate that this was a "posed" photo or just someone that does not know what they are doing so that a photo would be available for the story.

Pissed off Mom
Pissed off Mom

I pulled my middle schooler this year mid term and signed her up with INSPIRE Charter School.....I control her curriculum as I get to choose between a hundred or more curriculum providers. The funds that the school USE TO GET now go into an account for my daughter to use for school supplies and programs including extra curricular and enrichment such as art classes, Bible study, piano lessons, riding lessons, kickboxing, kayaking, skiing, etc...It is the best decision we ever made. She has a GPA of 3.86 and meets with her teacher weekly....does her assignment on line daily. They have an enrichment program and gatherings for social events, have their own graduation ceremonies and yearbooks. She state tests just like all other schools do as well. I encourage ALL conservatives to look into the possibilities of Homeschooling through a Charter Homeschool program like INSPIRE. TAKE BACK OUR CHILDREN...before they are brainwashed by the liberals in control of our schools!!

TheCosplayerMoka
TheCosplayerMoka

Why the fuck they have those kid's snapchat or any social media and stalking them? That's like creepy and stalker, invading privacy as well. I would sue the fuck out of them.

and telling them how they live their lives? That's not their job if it's outside of school.

Billdoe1969
Billdoe1969

Shit , the schools are a joke any more. They don't remember us with Gun racks in our trucks and coming to school with a rifle in it. They use to teach gun safety way back when.. Back then Schools were not a Gun Range to shoot people. we didn't have the problem we have now.. Parents have taught there kids to be Pussies now and screw your politically correct, Grow a pair. it's how you handle things not pussify them , you hurt my feelings.. . What happen to the world i was raised in.. i miss it!!

cclaxton
cclaxton

The Schools have a serious problem with cell phones and social media. A family members teen son forwarding a text of a white classmate in blackface, and got a suspension. (What do you think would have happened if he was black?) FIRST: We need to ban cell phones from schools during school hours. Find a way to set up a communication system so parents and kids can stay in touch without them. SECONDLY: We need to better control content for our teens with protected browsers. THIRD: Content of lawful activities that are not in any way threatening or subversive need to be protected, BUT students also need to be taught discretion. But it has to start with banning cell phones from schools.

wcneill
wcneill

The man pointed out a comment that wasn't logical. People DO scrutinize the photograph, as is made extremely obvious by the comment which he responded to. So, here is an alternative to your suggestion: If you can't use logic, or you are unwilling to accept someone pointing out the error in your thought process, don't post on the internet. I own two assault rifles (AK and AR!), a large caliber handgun and a high capacity shotgun. I can still appreciate when I'm wrong on an issue, or when someone points out something I didn't think about. Grow up, be an adult and get over yourself.

Marinevet.
Marinevet.

Typical of the liberal run schools today. They promote their anti-gun agenda at every chance they get. Legal or illegal. This definitely looks illegal to me.

NFPD103
NFPD103

This doesn't surprise me schools have been used for some time now to advance certain social justice issues, by doing so they are able to create policy in place of laws and form the young generations way of thinking. Zero tolerance policy only works when the aggressor is held accountable not the victim and aggressor, which is the case in bullying policies, common sense is completely gone in most cases when schools make decisions on students activity outside of school. these two students having parental permission to take part in shooting at a gun range should never even been an issue since no evidence of any kind of threats existed . Yet if they had been burning a joint or drinking a beer nothing would have happened to them.

Kshgtv24
Kshgtv24

Totally messed up. It is a sport, a hobby and a skill. The school should be sued. These boys should not be shamed, discouraged, or punished for taking an outside interest in marksmanship or, if they choose, hunting. Sending them the wrong message can forever scar their ability to respect authority when they themselves are not being respected.

Bettie
Bettie

Kids here in Michigan go hunting at age 14. They have a Youth Hunt an kids have to take a hunting class first. What you do for recreation outside of school, as long as no law is broken, should not result in any way of the school having a say in it. This is a democracy an we have a right to bare guns.

BruthaV
BruthaV

This isn't just about "school safety" -- it's about control. The Lacey Township School District wants to control the lives of students, even when they are away from school. In addition to inculcating the kids through Progressive indoctrination while they are attending school, that is not enough -- these Marxists want complete control over the children's lives to push their political and social agendas.

Judy787
Judy787

Born and raised in Alabama. When I was in high school, we had a rifle range in the basement of the school building. We had a competition rifle team as well.

Dracaris
Dracaris

exactly a return to the way it was in the mid 90s to verry early 2000's (which i come from being @ 32,) we wernt allowed phones (despite how bulky those buggers were, and anything hardly resembling modern in the early 2000's had jokes for games so there was no point by kids of today,) Most schools banned use of any personal electronics (mall walkman/"CD-Man", Gameboy etc.) at all or till free period and all class work was done, you badmouthed a teacher you felt a proper punishment and a adequate time of suspension depending what you did.

now adays kids have real bad problems w/ "Digital Distractions", disrespect from teachers and staff (something that needs to be addressed two-fold.), and i get the distinct feeling no one genuinely Socializes" with others the way we did before the internet/when the 'net was too young and new to do much. Kids these days need to wise up and fly right before Karma hits them hard as they reach adulthood, cause when they graduate and hit that gateway that reads "Welcome to reality. Here's your bill." they're going to be more than a day late n a dollar short.

$0phie1
$0phie1

If they were doing this off of school property and not during school hours, the school district has no right to impose their left-wing political views on these young men. But it's NJ, should we expect anything different?

Blueblood16
Blueblood16

Bullshit. Schools have enough trouble keeping kids safe when at school with bullies and shooters its not their business whats done off school grounds. Thats when parents take over.
Its just them shoving their belief onto the kids. Keep it to yourself!!!
Worry about keeping kids safe while at school!!

Neetsy
Neetsy

Oh does this bother me! Can anyone see where this country is going? I get pains in my stomach thinking about the loss of freedoms going one by one. My thoughts are that these kids are hunters practicing their skills. It's a good thing it's not my kid's or my school district because they would feel the ground vibrate under my feet as I approached. And I WOULD be the one sueing. Leave my mentally stable kids alone!

Mwarren
Mwarren

Mwarren
The school just made a major mistake. They violated these young men's First, Second and Fourth Amendment rights. And used their positions as school administrators and policy makers to do so. Get hold of a good plaintiffs civil rights attorney and make these alleged "school officials" and their school district pay through the nose. They deserve to get hammered!

Mr Hugo
Mr Hugo

Wait-they're students, or 'subjects?'

Since when does attending school give that entity jurisdiction over one's rights?